Re: Law Enforcement

manny2 · ‎05-24-2010

@febe1 wrote:
Gosh, how smart could this person or persons be to stump the FBI and police?
How smart could he be, not to leave any information or clues?
I'm starting to get the feeling, like ID, this will be solved ten or more years in the future.

There is no such thing as a perfect crime. Whoever did this made mistakes, they always do. It is just a matter of time before more slips show up. We have already seen one big one in the way the person showed themselves on camera, that relaxed body language, no urgency, no hesitation. They might have thought they wouldn’t be visible or detected once the camera was covered or removed. I doubt they expected that clear image to end up plastered all over television.

febe1 · ‎01-22-2012

@Tinkrbl44 , I agree. They've stuck around the house and family a long time.

I believe there are two different crimes committed here with two different people or peoples: the crime of Nancy murdered or taken away, and others in the crime of ransom.

There's something mysterious in the family.

elated · ‎06-09-2010

@Mz iMac wrote:
@febe1 wrote:
The news has "backed off" that Nancy would die w/o her medications.
They're now saying she could live w/o, but it could be dangerous without.

Reporting death w/o meds made people think she was already dead, whereas, she might be very much alive.
@febe1 So the police intentionally lied at the first press conference?

As I recall on the family's first video, Savannah stated that her mom needed the medication every 24 hours. So, it doesn't make sense what is being stated.

tansy · ‎01-02-2011

@elated wrote:
@Mz iMac wrote:
@febe1 wrote:
The news has "backed off" that Nancy would die w/o her medications.
They're now saying she could live w/o, but it could be dangerous without.

Reporting death w/o meds made people think she was already dead, whereas, she might be very much alive.
@febe1 So the police intentionally lied at the first press conference?

As I recall on the family's first video, Savannah stated that her mom needed the medication every 24 hours. So, it doesn't make sense what is being stated.

If I were in Savannah's situation, I might have exaggerated the need for the meds.

manny2 · ‎05-24-2010

@They CallMe MRWILKES wrote:
As had been said before, the public does not need to know everything and is not entitled to be informed of everything during an investigation.

Unfortunately, the proliferation of crime shows causes folks to think that everything must be disclosed to them so they can solve the crime.

If it would jeopardize the course of an investigation, I don't need or want to know certain things.

I agree, we don’t know everything, and we shouldn’t expect to know everything. They release information when it benefits them, not the public. They have profilers, analysts, and people who understand behavior working on this. They know exactly what they are doing and what they hope it will elicit.

PJinIA · ‎03-21-2010

I think the Sheriff might be in over his head. This just showed up on FN

A high-profile forensic genealogy company slammed Department for sending critical evidence in the Nancy Guthrie case to a private lab in Florida, instead of directly to the FBI.

"This is so devastating," said Othram co-founder Kristen Mittelman. "DNA Labs International is a traditional forensic lab that consumes evidence to make an SRT [short tandem repeat] profile, so I don’t understand why it didn’t go to Quantico, since they can do this better and faster than anyone, and they have a pipeline to flip it immediately to inferring identity with us."

"It’s just the FBI developed this method and can do it so much better without destroying the evidence," the source said. "I’ve seen so many cases go to Florida and be consumed. Also, they are not as fast, and in this case, time matters."

"It risks further slowing a case that grows more urgent by the minute," the official told Reuters, citing unspecified "earlier setbacks" in the investigation. The official also criticized Nanos for not requesting help from the FBI earlier in the case.

manny2 · ‎05-24-2010

If these reports are accurate, it really does make you wonder why he chose a private lab in Florida when he had full access to the most advanced forensic lab in the country. The only scenario that makes sense on the surface is that sending it elsewhere meant he would see the results before the FBI did. Otherwise, bypassing Quantico, which is faster, more advanced, and preserves evidence better, just looks inept.

DREAMON · ‎03-09-2010

Just my thought-

The videos I have seen of these people lurking etc. seem to be wearing jeans, similar backpacks, and gray jackets.

I am thinking a gang/cartel that is going through that area.

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

People in LE want to take control. That's what the Sheriff is doing, taking control.

"Turf war"

Diamonds22 · ‎03-09-2010

@manny2 wrote:
@Lakelife62 wrote:
@manny2 wrote:
It seems the Sherriff made a very poor decision. He had full FBI support and access to the best forensic resources, yet the glove was sent to a private lab in Florida instead of Quantico.
Maybe he has info that we don't and he doesn't trust the FBI.
That could be a possibility, but why? He was front‑and‑center with constant press conferences early on, and now he bypassed Quantico and sent the glove to a private lab. It gives the impression he wants to keep control of the results and stay in the spotlight.

I agree 1,000% with your last statement.