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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 esmerelda said:
On 9/7/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 9/7/2014 esmerelda said:

I guess all the docs are on this thread. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

People are having a conversation, adding what they know from experience, adding what they find from reading on or off the internet. I'll never understand the desire to post a comment such as the one I quoted, attempting to mock or ridicule others for simply participating in a discussion. It sheds light on the person doing the mocking, nothing more nothing less.

{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

And SPECULATING...as in #36 above.

{#emotions_dlg.blink}Speculation isn't uncommon in a discussion. I can add it to my remark:

"People are having a conversation, adding what they know from experience, adding what they find from reading on or off the internet, speculating. I'll never understand the desire to post a comment such as the one I quoted, attempting to mock or ridicule others for simply participating in a discussion. It sheds light on the person doing the mocking, nothing more nothing less."

Doesn't change my point. Not at all.{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 hckynut said:

Haven't read or seen any "actual results" on the reason for her problem during this procedure. My own experiences, and I am 75 years old, and non of my doctors would do any of my many procedures any place but in a hospital.

Don't know what type of meds she was taking, but there are many that people my age are taking that can be responsible for serious situations happening during even very routine procedures.

When I needed an Oral Surgeon, he does/did 95% of his procedures in his office as an outpatient. No way would he do my procedure anyplace but in a hospital.

Seems strange to me she would be having this done at an Endoscopy Center. Don't know that it was an Endoscopy, but the clinics in our city that advertise as such do only Endoscopy and Colonoscopy, not anything else. If other procedures need to be done they do them in a hospital.

Anyone that wants to update me with "the facts" of the autopsy or other pertinent information that is true, I would really appreciate it.

John, from what I've read, the autopsy results so far are inconclusive. She was having an endoscopy to try to find out why she had increased raspiness in her voice. She stopped breathing during the procedure and went into cardiac arrest. Much has been speculated about why, and lots of "what ifs" and "should haves." The only endoscopy I had done was in an outpatient center at the same time that I had a colonoscopy, and I was given the twilight anesthesia. My personal opinion is that it was simply her time.
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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 hckynut said:

Haven't read or seen any "actual results" on the reason for her problem during this procedure. My own experiences, and I am 75 years old, and non of my doctors would do any of my many procedures any place but in a hospital.

Don't know what type of meds she was taking, but there are many that people my age are taking that can be responsible for serious situations happening during even very routine procedures.

When I needed an Oral Surgeon, he does/did 95% of his procedures in his office as an outpatient. No way would he do my procedure anyplace but in a hospital.

Seems strange to me she would be having this done at an Endoscopy Center. Don't know that it was an Endoscopy, but the clinics in our city that advertise as such do only Endoscopy and Colonoscopy, not anything else. If other procedures need to be done they do them in a hospital.

Anyone that wants to update me with "the facts" of the autopsy or other pertinent information that is true, I would really appreciate it.

1. Were your cataract surgeries done in a hospital?{#emotions_dlg.confused1}

2. What dental procedure would your dentist (or dental surgeon) do in a hospital, as opposed to his office? {#emotions_dlg.confused1}

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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 sophiamarie said:
On 9/7/2014 hckynut said:

Haven't read or seen any "actual results" on the reason for her problem during this procedure. My own experiences, and I am 75 years old, and non of my doctors would do any of my many procedures any place but in a hospital.

Don't know what type of meds she was taking, but there are many that people my age are taking that can be responsible for serious situations happening during even very routine procedures.

When I needed an Oral Surgeon, he does/did 95% of his procedures in his office as an outpatient. No way would he do my procedure anyplace but in a hospital.

Seems strange to me she would be having this done at an Endoscopy Center. Don't know that it was an Endoscopy, but the clinics in our city that advertise as such do only Endoscopy and Colonoscopy, not anything else. If other procedures need to be done they do them in a hospital.

Anyone that wants to update me with "the facts" of the autopsy or other pertinent information that is true, I would really appreciate it.

1. Were your cataract surgeries done in a hospital?{#emotions_dlg.confused1}

2. What dental procedure would your dentist (or dental surgeon) do in a hospital, as opposed to his office? {#emotions_dlg.confused1}

Not playing your game any more.

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On 9/7/2014 Jig Saw said:

=^..^=

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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 hckynut said:
On 9/7/2014 sophiamarie said:
On 9/7/2014 hckynut said:

1. Were your cataract surgeries done in a hospital?{#emotions_dlg.confused1}

2. What dental procedure would your dentist (or dental surgeon) do in a hospital, as opposed to his office? {#emotions_dlg.confused1}

Not playing your game any more.

I am asking you two legitimate questions, for which you don't seem to have answers?

I am not playing games.

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He may not want to answer personal questions about his health, and that's OK.
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On 9/7/2014 NoelSeven said: He may not want to answer personal questions about his health, and that's OK.

I think he's capable of speaking for himself, don't you? He never had a problem before. But that's okay - I don't play games....

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Re: Joan Rivers had a heart condition

On 9/7/2014 sophiamarie said:
On 9/7/2014 NoelSeven said: He may not want to answer personal questions about his health, and that's OK.

I think he's capable of speaking for himself, don't you? He never had a problem before. But that's okay - I don't play games....

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