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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan

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I hate pushy people, it automaticilly turns me off. Reading these messages, makes the CEO come off as a bit desperate to book people.

 

I don't necessarily take it as people looking for attention, rather then a "there but for the grace of God go I" that he dodged a bullet. It's human nature to think of how close you came to possibly having an unfortunate ending.  Also, it brings to light that people truly believed that this was not a safe vessel, and that warnings were given.

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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan

I want to know why anyone would want to go look at the Titanic wreck 

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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan

@jackthebear   Bragging rights

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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan


@goldensrbest wrote:

I just wonder if the ones that had misgivings,expressed this  before this happened.

 

 

To who should they have expressed this to besides the company? Were they suppose to call up news media and say "hey, i got offered to ride this but it isnt safe?"

 

Rush's fellow peer suggested he get independent engineering inspection and he wouldnt do it. 


 

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@Kachina624 wrote:

@JJsMom   Jay Bloom wasn't the only one with misgivings.

 

The host of the popular Discovery show “Expedition Unknown” opted out of a deep-sea dive on OceanGate’s Titan submersible because of what he said was a lack of available safety data.

Josh Gates got his first look at the sub during a test run in 2021, just months before the company began taking passengers down to the Titanic.

“By the end of the trip, I really just came to the conclusion that this wasn’t for me, and I’m not a guy who says no to dangerous things very easily,” Gates said Thursday on “CUOMO.”

He’s one of many that have voiced questions about the safety and construction of the vessel, which is made of carbon fiber.


It sounds like a lot of people had concerns about going on that vessel!

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@Love my grandkids wrote:

Now people who passed up this event will come out of thw woodwork for attention.


He posted this on his own Facebook page, so I don't really see it that way. He knew the CEO and had just talked to him about this trip. Thornton and another passenger who died on that trip even gave him a signed book on Titanic voyages. It seems like they were doing a hard sell for these trips.

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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan

We women had more sense.

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@icezeus wrote:

I hate pushy people, it automaticilly turns me off. Reading these messages, makes the CEO come off as a bit desperate to book people.

 

I don't necessarily take it as people looking for attention, rather then a "there but for the grace of God go I" that he dodged a bullet. It's human nature to think of how close you came to possibly having an unfortunate ending.  Also, it brings to light that people truly believed that this was not a safe vessel, and that warnings were given.


That's what I thought too. He is pushing this really hard and completely dismissing any concerns about it, which is really irresponsible. The way he downplayed the son's fears and almost made him look dumb is a huge red flag. I keep thinking about the 19-year-old who felt pressured to go with his dad. Thornton probably got him on a video call with his dad to convince him how safe it was. Sad.

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Re: Jay Bloom turned down seats on Titan

I think he was pushy because he needed the money. The shortcuts taken seem egregious to me, enough to be criminally negligent.
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@jackthebear   Bragging rights


@Mz iMac I truly am not being snarky to you when I say this...but I never have understood, nor been motivated to do anything for "bragging rights." Certainly not something like this, which carried all kinds of "possibility of death" "sign offs" you had to do up front. I guess I'm just wired differently...it just never would be a motivator to me. If I truly had the desire, curiousity or longing to do something, but to just 'say I did it' to people, no.

 

I saw an article on some guy who had done this trip with this same company. Long and short of it...they got a little lost and had to search for the Titanic for a few hours, leaving them only 15 minutes when they finally found it, to all peek out that little porthole, in the pitch black and get a glimpse of a piece of Titanic. All for 250k. 

 

Mind you...I get the fascination. I too went to the movie back in the 80's that was made, after they finally found it. I can imagine that some people just feel a thrill to take it a step further, and be emmersed into the whole realm. Not me. Not for all the reasons, but even if completely assured of my safe return...just don't want to be emmersed in that graveyard. Have I been fascinated to see it on film and read about it, yes. But, that's where it ends for me.