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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?


@Daisy Sunflower wrote:

 

Sounds like she doesn't know what to do with herself.

 

Maybe you could suggest that she thinks about hobbies that she might enjoy instead of spending her time buying and selling clothes.

 

Give her a few suggestions -- go on a daily walk/hike, bike ride, read books, garden, start a monthly game night (if she has friends who are close by), etc.

 

Tell her she doesn't need to be doing so much volunteer work all the time -- that she should try something new. Let her know that there's plenty of activities she can do at home.


I think the OP should mind her own business and not say anything to her friend.  Why should she get involved at all?

 

If someone gave me suggestions or told me to do activities at home, they would get the stink eye and told to MYOB.

 

The OP has already mentioned that her friend does a lot of voluntary work.  Just because she is well off and wants to make more money doesn't mean anything needs to change.  I think she should carry on with her new business if she wants to..or not.  The decision is hers alone.

 

Many people make money this very same way...more power to them.

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

@Daisy Sunflower 

 

Finding things to do is her specialty!

 

She hires chefs and bakers to come to her house to teach us all for private classes.

She plans huge elaborate holiday parties for adults and one for kids.

They love to entertain and they have the perfect house/grounds to do so, she has a small army of people help to pull off these elaborate events.  But she really plans lovely events.

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?


@VegasBusinessWoman wrote:

I'm surprised at some of the responses here.  The friend @Abrowneyegirl is talking about isn't doing anything illegal or immoral.  It's called "BUSINESS" and she is doing pretty much what many retailers do.  They bundle up and return their unsold, seasonal merch to their middlemen for credit against new their merch purchases, who then bundle them up and sell them to TJ Maxx, Tuesday Morning and many other off-price retailers who routinely sell post-season merch.  If she has the time to do what she does, fine and dandy.  Believe me, big retailers aren't suffering THAT much, because they can adjust their return policies to suit their business model; they just like to complain, IMO.  I fail to see how the actions of a few individual street capitalists can meaningfully damage a retail giant.

 

This woman's financial condition has nothing to do with her desire to be a business woman.  In America, you are supposed to have the right to engage in free enterprise regardless of your relative wealth--or lack thereof--if you can find the means to do so. 


I'm not surprised. And I agree 100 % - @VegasBusinessWoman Q and HSN sell PALLETS of returns to ebay sellers. 

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

What VegasBusinessWoman said. The OP's friend sounds like a savvy businesswoman. She is exercising  her right as an American citizen to engage in a trade or business under the free enterprise system. The only problem I can see is not with her but with stores that have overly generous return policies which allow people to return merchandise no matter how long ago they purchased it and in any condition even if it so worn or damaged that it cannot be resold. Serial returners affect their profits much more than what OP's friend is doing. 

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 Well, all I can say is  I would hope  some of the money she  makes from buying and selling so many fashion items is then  Donated to needy charities since you say she's so well off that she's privledged to fly in private jets !

 

 

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

@sunshine45 

 

Yeah I know. This is nothing new. But its not a walk in the park. I think its neat. It's called entrepreneurship. She's an entrepreneur. 

 

Entrepreneur/Entrepreneurship: individual in the process of designing, launching and running a new business, which is often initially a small business. ... Entrepreneurship - a business venture along with any of its risks to make a profit."

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

 

@Carmie 

 

Now that I think about it, if she isn't a close friend, I wouldn't talk to her about it.

 

However, if she's a close friend, I'd talk to her about what she's doing -- and also suggest other ways to keep herself busy. Continuously buying and returning unsold items just doesn't seem right. JMO. Eventually they're going to refuse her returns.

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

a local thrift store used to allow returns if the clothesdidnot.  some folkswere buy designer labels, consighning them and if they did not sale, returning them. they have since changed their return polcies because of this.  

 

i knew one woman who did nothingmore then visit all the thrift stores in the area and do this.

 

some people!!!!!!!

 

some yardsalers weredoing the same thi ng at thirft stores.  bujyingcheap and reselling.  then returning thei items if they didn't sale.

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?


@handygal2 wrote:

@Carmie wrote:

@handygal2   You have the same shot as her friend does.  When merchandise hits the floor for sale, it is available for anyone and everyone.  If you want it, be there and buy it.

 

I know of no one who will look at a pair of their favorite and popular black pants and find 3 pairs in their size left and then buy all three pairs.  No one says, I should only buy one pair and give someone else a shot at the other two.

 

 


@Carmie : The way l look at it, if l buy 1 pair of the black pants in my size, 2 other women can also buy themselves a pair. Your friend is preventing all 3 of us from buying those pants we wanted. And she doesn’t even want them! 


I am not invested in theoretical women who have the same size and taste as mine. In fact, I owe these nonexistent people nothing. More, after a lifetime of having favorite item after item, in apparel, beauty products, housewares--you name it--discontinued because of lack of market demand, I am not about to participate in the demise of a product I love and want and will use by failing to purchase as much of it as I can when it is available, just to service some stranger's notion about sharing. I want those pants and I'm going to buy the rack if I can. There is absolutely nothing illegal, immoral, or unethical about my doing so, and I will not be shamed out of my pants.

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Re: It is not illegal but is immoral?

OK, so I'm wondering...doesn't the company she's selling things through take a cut?

 

If so, it sounds to me like she's actually 'loosing' money by buying something at a regular price and then the in-between company sells it and takes THEIR cut?

 

What am I missing here?  How is that a smart idea.

 

I thought that Poshmark(?) whatever the name is only sold very, very high priced items at a discount?

 

I've looked at those purses that cost thousands of dollars and a lot of them look like purses my mother used to use...like Grandma purses.

 

I've never understood people paying a lot of money for something just because of the name plastered on it.

 

I guess I'm that way because I don't know anyone who'd know an expensive something from a reasonably nice something else.

 

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  

 

I guess it depends who who's in your circle of friends.

 

My daughter lives in a development where Billionaires live.  I guess they'd know the difference between one of those thousand dollar purses and one from maybe Kohls?  I don't even know.

 

I know my daughter doesn't carry one of those purses...maybe I did a better job raising her than I thought I did.