Investigating the contacts of the 66% that stayed ... - Page 2

Mindy D · ‎05-23-2010

@mspatmac wrote:
What about necessary services like ac/heat system repair, replacement appliance, plumbing service, where a repair person needs home access. I have a neighbor who had new wall to wall carpet installed yesterday but she didn't leave her house.

Hopefully, investigators will be able to get this information from the patients or their families. Even the mail could be a source.

Foxxee · ‎10-03-2014

This is ridiculous. The virus didn't knock their doors down to get in.

They got it from someone.

shoesnbags · ‎03-10-2010

@noodleann wrote:
People lie, and sometimes they don't realize they're misrepresenting the facts.

I have a friend in NYC who says repeatedly that he's staying at home. But he markets at 2 or 3 stores daily, visits a friend across town weekly, and spent time with other friends at their house upstate. I know all this because he tells me. He doesn't count the lapses. It's like someone on a diet who fails to enter the family-size bag of chips they demolished in their food journal. But my friend insists that he's obeying the lockdown. He's married and his wife is with him, so it's not as if he has no company.

This is why people will continue to get sick. They just can't stand to be inside, so they're going out and being exposed.

In my observation, men are worse about conforming to virus hygiene than women.

Bingo! This is what I think they will find out when they investigate further. Someone's idea of "staying at home" isn't necessarily the ideal Dr. Fauci version of staying at home. Also, even if the only place a person goes is the grocery, there's a tremendous amount of potential exposure. Even people who are wearing masks and gloves are often using them incorrectly and it only takes one slip to cause an infection.

"Breathe in, breathe out, move on." Jimmy Buffett

Lucky Charm · ‎03-09-2010

They need to find out the facts with these people to get a correct assessment.

I had a neighbor look at me with crazy eyes when I told him I went to the grocery store 2 times since March 22nd.

He says he's been in place (stay at home) that whole time.

I know for a fact he worked until after April 1st. He had home health care workers come in for 12 hours a day for a family member until the first weekend of April.

A poster here said she had been in home for 4 weeks, but if you looked at her history, she had been to Costco and told of all the items she saw on the shelves only 19 days prior. That's an 9 day difference. Big difference.

I've had people tell me they are *serious* about staying at home, self distancing, etc. and yet have actually seen them handle items that could be contaminated and wearing no gloves, no masks, and not self distancing.

I am concerned, myself, at how far we may have to go to rid ourselves of this disease. Taking everything off from head to toe if we do go out. Did someone sneeze or cough before I turned the corner? How long did the items I wiped down stay *wet*?

I haven't hugged a grandchild in a long time. I don't even know when I'll be able to again.

I'm petrified of restaurants, prepared food in the grocery store, mishandling my own groceries and even contaminating my masks. Too afraid to wear my cloth masks, and have only worn N95 and KN95 masks.

66% is a very high percentage for hospitalized people who say they were strict about staying at home and following all the guidelines, if they did go out.

pitdakota · ‎03-16-2010

I think it will be interesting to see what they document. Always important to learn about what happened or is happening.

That was the case in China, South Korea, and Italy. When they started going back to do the contact tracing, they found out how readily the virus was transmitted in environments where people were talking and having very little interaction. Office settings were mapped out where people were traced, restaurant tables placed, seating areas in whatever they call bars in Italy, etc. that demonstrated oral particles ended up being the mode of transmission between people that had little contact with the exception of sharing the same space for a short period of time. One reason that when this evidence started coming out, they started encouraging the public to wear masks here in the US. When they had the results of all that contact tracing from those other countries, it gave us some information to apply to try and help cut down on community transmission here.

Through that aggressive testing and contact tracing in South Korea, they directly associated 1,000 cases of covid-19 to one lady attending a church in South Korea. Wow! Not to mention that South Korea never really had to shut down because they had such an aggressive testing and contact tracing program. Not only did they identify people they needed to either isolate or quarantine, they learned quite a bit about the transmission of the virus.

So it will be interesting to see what they document in this case.

* Freedom has a taste the protected will never know *

bonnielu · ‎03-11-2010

I feel that exposure might be better than isolation... builds immunity. From my thirty year teacher experience... I never took sick leave... and kids were sick all around me. I don't pretent to be a scientist or doctor but that was my experience.

Biftu · ‎02-05-2011

@happycat wrote:
If these people are in apartments, could the virus be traveling thru air ducts?
It seems like I have heard it can and cannot go thru air ducts and I think it just depends on who you ask.
I wonder how long these folks had been sheltering at home?

Remember Legionnaires disease which was caused by AC vents in a Philadelphia hotel.

Pook · ‎03-20-2010

Many who say they are staying home go to grocery stores daily and several each day and also stop by to see family and friends who are supposedly staying at home. Just because you are not working or retired doesn't mean you are home and do not go out or have contact with others!