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[OooLaLa]

As an update to my original post and links, I notice that the information on the second link has been revised.  I'm now finding no information regarding neurons.  However, a search for "Methylisothiazolinone neurons" will yield plenty of links, some dating back to 2002.  Yet, we're still painfully contending with this issue.

MethylIsothiazolinone Link to Muscle Degenerative Disorders.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=140518.0

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/22/17/7408.full

Also, in fairness, I'm sure the third link needs to be updated because MI has been removed from some of the listed products.

[tends2dogs]

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@tends2dogs wrote:

Ran out to pick up a few things, a good hour later......, I made a few changes to what we will be using going forward.  I read so many labels, what an eye opener!

I went to Kroger after reading this thread.  I bought the Simple Truth brand dish soap and all purpose spray cleaner.  I was impressed with the small ingredient deck.  I also purchased Kirk's Castile pure botanica coconut oil soap.  I will report back.  The shampoo aisle was a major eye opener.  Suave, VO5, Tresemme, Dove, Infusium all contain our "methyl" friend. The Garnier products don't contain it, but they test on animals.  I also looked at the label of Isommers deodorant and it contains Triclosan, another no no.  I repurchased Renpure Originals Coconut Cream Shampoo.  It says on their label:  These produts are not tested on animals.  They are tested on the Redmonds.  That is the family that owns the company. 

Keep reading labels and sharing!

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As promised, I am reporting back on the few changes I made as a result to this thread.  The Dr. Bronner's liquid soaps are great.  The Sal Suds is great for the laundry.  One tablespoon does a large load.  The Dr. Bronner's is great in my Bissel steam cleaner.  The Renpure coconut shampoo is great. The Kroger brand Simple Truth was a bomb as far as dish soap.  It does not cut grease well, however, the window cleaner is the best I have ever used. The Kirk's Castile bar soap was nice, but didn't last very long.  Also, i have stopped using fabric softener.  Why do we really need this??  It is like putting a liquid coat of plastic on our clothes, towels, bedding, etc..  I decided that we don't need that in our lives.

I am still reading labels even though I have not had any skin problems.  There is always the potential though and I don't want something to pop up down the road.  There could be residual or long term effects from the cytotoxins.

Keep reading and sharing!

[OooLaLa]

@tends2dogs Thanks for the great feedback and information!  Will try some of the products you mentioned. As for the dish detergent, I find myself using much more than I needed with other products. Wish we didn't have to give up the products we used to like - or thought we did.  I haven't tried anything new lately, but will share when I find another good product and hope others will, also.

[tends2dogs]

@OooLaLa I found that the Dr. Bronner's orange liquid castile (that is the one I purchased) worked great for cutting grease on dishes.  It is expensive even though you don't need a lot.  I don't have skin issues, but since you do, it might be an alternative.  If it didn't work for dishes, there are loads of uses that are printed all over the label.  It has great reviews.

As far as the Kroger dish soap, I will just use it up as a hand wash.

[OooLaLa]

Dr. Bronner Orange sounds great for the kitchen and good to know about Simple Truth glass cleaner.

MI seems to be the "gift" that keeps on giving. Hadn't looked at the label, thinking it was "natural," but just discovered it's in one of my favorite cleaners, a popular brand beginning with "M" eucalyptus mint bathroom cleaner.  SO disappointed. How many times have I sprayed down my rather deep bathtub and stuck my head over and scrubbed it - and then wondered why my face and hands flared up. And even coughed, with the exhaust fan going. I was unaware of MI until July.

I just keep finding this stuff!  Come on, manufacturers!  You can do better.

[newziesuzie]

Very good info I didn't know and thanks

@OooLaLa for this thread. And to everybody

adding info to it.

[OooLaLa]

@tends2dogs @ROMARY @newziesuzie  You've probably heard or seen in the news very recently about Triclosan being "banned" from soap products.

@Pearley (***waving***) has started a new thread about this in Community Chat.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/09/03/fda-is-cleaning-up-antibacterial-soap/#2223c15b53dc

Now, if the FDA would turn their attention to Methylisothiazolinone and its horrible "relatives"!

[ROMARY]

FYI:  I mentioned this somewhere, so just in case:  On "The Doctors" (tv) check out 9-2-16 Friday's episode.  Segment with naturalpathic Dr. (?) TREVOR CATES (woman).  Very interesting re: even some lipbalms, etc. contain toxins. 

[tends2dogs]

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@Amarica wrote:

@tends2dogs @ROMARY @newziesuzie  You've probably heard or seen in the news very recently about Triclosan being "banned" from soap products.

@Pearlee (***waving***) has started a new thread about this in Community Chat.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/09/03/fda-is-cleaning-up-antibacterial-soap/#2223c15b53dc

Now, if the FDA would turn their attention to Methylisothiazolinone and its horrible "relatives"!

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@OooLaLa  So glad Triclosan et al are being banned.  I have known about this for awhile.  I think I mentioned in a post above about it being Isomers antiperspirant. 

Baby steps, but moving forward.

Keep reading label and sharing!

[KYToby]

First off, I empathize with you.  I have had severe skin allergies all of my life, and ultimately, it comes down to the individual.  Mny things which irritate my skin do not affect othes.  By the same token, there are things which affect others significantly but have no impact on me.

Unfortunately, when it comes to determining the allergies, it is a lot of work on the one suffering.  You have to eliminate almost everything and slowly add things back in until you determine the cause.  The othe solution is allergy testing, but even that does not cover everything.

As for "natural" and "organic" products.  Anyone who gives this advice is clearly clueless.  These terms do not mean "safe" or "better."  Peanuts are natural, but they kill people with peanut allergies (even organic peanuts).  Ragweed and poison ivy are both natural, but many people are allergic.

I am glad you have found the cause of your rash, but this is not a substancewhich commonly affects others in the same way.  While you need to avoid it, others do not, and it seems silly to change the makeup of many producs simply because it has an adverse reaction in a small number of people.  If we did, most products would be coming off the shelves.