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@threecees wrote:

The roomate saw him, all masked up, strange man and thought nothing of

this? So bizarre. Sure, she was in a frozen shock phase but did nothing.

Was this person on drugs, what did she do then go to sleep?

Must have been the biggest party house around. No call to 911 for way

too long, maybe they could have possibly been saved.


@threecees @The probable cause affidavit does not go into what she did while locked in her room. I'm guessing she had no phone in her room and was afraid to leave her room with the masked man still in the house. Police are probably keeping this information from the public at this time. Divulging this was unnecessary to get the arrest, so it's not in the affidavit. I think we should refrain from judgement of her until we know the full story. Everyone in the house had been out that night and she could have been drinking too much to think clearly. We don't know this for sure yet. The affidavit only has to give enough information to make an arrest.  

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@Bonkers1 @The affidavit discusses this. The driver was interviewed. If you have ever seen photos of the house, the first floor is attached in a way that makes the upper two floors sit in the back and above it as if the upper floors were separated. 

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@Mindy D wrote:

@scatcat wrote:

I wonder if his parents thought twice about fact that the police were looking for a white Elantra and their son drove one.

 

I thought I read that there was a food delivery at 4 am? I wonder if the delivery guy ever saw the murderer.

 

How the roommate who heard and saw him lived to tell is a miracle.

 


@scatcat You are right. The complete affidavit mentions that Kernodle , a survivor, received a DoorDash delivery at 4 a.m.
Here's the quote about it from the affidavit.


"This is with the exception of Kenrodle, who received a DoorDash order at the residence at approximately 4:00 a"n (law enforcement identified the DoorDash delivery
driver who reported this information"


@scatcat"You are right. The complete affidavit mentions that Kernodle , a survivor,"

 

 

@Mindy D, Xana Kernodle did not survive.

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@tiny 2 @Thanks, I fixed my post.

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The first floor and the second two floors are almost like separate houses. 
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@shoesnbags wrote:

I still can't get over the roommate just locking her door and going to sleep. What kind of environment were these kids living in that she could hear what she heard, see a stranger walking down the hall at that hour, and do no more than lock her door?  And no one checks until so much later the next day.  


@shoesnbags @ValuSkr Check in the full affidavit. I haven't read it yet. I just posted it here a minute ago. I'm pretty sure there would be more on this. She did think the guy was still in the house. Maybe her cell was not in the bedroom with her and she was too afraid to go get it. 


I was thinking she may not have had her phone on her and was scared to leave the room. She did say something like she was frozen in shock. I don't think the affidavit said she went back to sleep, did it? These are all young girls. I'm sure the whole thing is very traumatizing for her. I do wonder why she didn't get help right away, and I assume it'll all come out later and make more sense.

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@skatting44 @I'm still trying to understand this myself. My best guess is she couldn't get to her cell phone and she was too terrified to leave her room with the chance that the suspect was in the house.  My second guess is she was very intoxicated and not thinking clearly. The most explosive possibility would be that she did call and no one showed up, but I doubt this happened. We shall see. 

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@shoesnbags wrote:

I still can't get over the roommate just locking her door and going to sleep. What kind of environment were these kids living in that she could hear what she heard, see a stranger walking down the hall at that hour, and do no more than lock her door?  And no one checks until so much later the next day.  


@shoesnbags 

I was watching a recap on The Today Show this morning. I am still trying to wrap my head around that. I believe she saw this stranger around 4:00 a.m. but the police were not called until 12:00.

 

I have never been scared for my life and in shock so perhaps that's how some behave. ????

 

My other thought was that there were multiple roommates. Perhaps being a college student she just believed that he was there visiting someone. Pure speculation here. Perhaps a lot of people  go in and out of the residence. Late night studying and such.

 

I am not sure and I am trying very hard not to judge, but it just does not make sense to me. 

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@skatting44 @I'm still trying to understand this myself. My best guess is she couldn't get to her cell phone and she was too terrified to leave her room with the chance that the suspect was in the house.  My second guess is she was very intoxicated and not thinking clearly. The most explosive possibility would be that she did call and no one showed up, but I doubt this happened. We shall see. 


I'm seeing a rush to judgement on the roommate. I get the impression that there were plenty of people coming and going in this house, so running into an unknown individual in the wee hours of the morning may not have been a cause for alarm. She may have locked her door out of concern for her own safety, but that doesn't mean she feared for anyone else, she may have thought the man was a friend of someone else. I'm also not sure what type of mask he was wearing. A hoodie and a face mask would obscure someone's identity, but not cause too much alarm given Covid precautions. In addition, his walking past her might have suggested to her that he was harmless. 

These are college age kids that don't have the same life experiences of people three times their age. This young woman is not to blame for this monster's actions.

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