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‎02-07-2017 11:58 AM
Noel, I am in total agreement. My daughter is 22 and I still remember an argument I had with her second grade teacher-who I really liked.
DD had major problems remembering the four basic math functions-and later, she really had problems with following steps to solve basic algebraic equations.
Her teacher told her Dad and I that "all that is changing. There is too much information out there for kids to remember it all. It's more important that they know how to access information".
Call me a fossil-or progressive, but that line of pedagogy did not fly with us....We had many holes in our children's academic lives to fill because of what was not being taught. It's not the teachers fault: they have strict guidelines and templates they have to follow. Critical thinking was really deficient-and so was grammar among other things.
Poodlepet2
‎02-07-2017 12:09 PM
‎02-07-2017 12:11 PM
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@151949 wrote:The problem is there is a lot of incorrect information out on the internet as well, and how do you know what is correct information & what isn't. Just because something is on the internet does not make it actual true facts.
The problem is not the internet it is the people using it. They don't bother to do research and or questions the site they are using or to double check the source and if there are others that back up their supposed facts. The internet just like anything is a good thing if used correctly. But the constant rehashing of false facts is rampant.
@AngusandBuddhasMom - I agree.
‎02-07-2017 12:12 PM
@qualitygal wrote:We can look everything up, at least I haven't ever not found anything I've looked for yet. We have instant info. Computers so impress me, with all they deliver. I just don't know how you'd ever really measure how much smarter we are because of these.
We are just informed!!! Maybe that's the better way to express it.
How impressed are you with computers?
While I love technology and have since I was a young teen, I also am a realist. Learned everything about computers after I retired. Started with zero knowledge and over many years I now can build my own, if I choose.
Most of my "smartness"(?)/knowledge came from living life's experiences, with a whole lot since I retired, coming from watching certain networks and shows on television. I can find answers via computer for sure, but because I can find it, does not mean it is accurate. If I vet out what I have read further, many times some things are just not true.
Computer make me smarter? About how they work? Yes, overall, no.
hckynut(john)
‎02-07-2017 12:19 PM
I dread the day a computer diagnoses my sickness. To be honest, I think this is already happening. All there needs to be is some licenced professional to hit the "enter" button.![]()
‎02-07-2017 12:23 PM - edited ‎02-07-2017 12:25 PM
Don't hate me, but.....
"Her teacher told her Dad and I that "all that is changing. ..Critical thinking was really deficient-and so was grammar among other things."
It's " her Dad and me".
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” -- George Orwell, 1984
‎02-07-2017 12:28 PM
@151949 wrote:The problem is there is a lot of incorrect information out on the internet as well, and how do you know what is correct information & what isn't. Just because something is on the internet does not make it actual true facts.
This.
Having information doesn't make anyone smarter. Having information without the critical thinking skills to determine what's true and what isn't makes people dangerous.
‎02-07-2017 12:39 PM
I'm impressed with what can be done with computers, but I take it with a grain of salt, and I'll always keep a close eye on technology because of the potential for nefarious, false, or even evil purposes...but
Being a bit of a nerd, though, I love/prefer going to the library to do research (although I use computers more often now). I would say we are more quickly informed with computers, but one still has to take whatever info is gathered (whether from computers or libraries) and apply common sense (if there's any left), experience, logic, standards (what few are left), fine distinctions, historical points of reference, etc. to make decisions based on that info.
I might add retention and comprehension, too, but those also apply to however you are getting your info.
I have a friend who makes this statement a lot during in-depth discussions: "My current [view/belief/opinion] is...!"
‎02-07-2017 12:40 PM - edited ‎02-07-2017 12:44 PM
I think computers are a convenience more than anything else. It's possible that it can make a person smarter just by being able to acquire more knowledge they otherwise would not have the time and, therefore, the inclination to seek out. For me? I like the convenience, but I'm glad I also know how to be resourceful in finding answers myself from my pre-computer days. Not so with generations after mine.
‎02-07-2017 12:44 PM - edited ‎02-07-2017 12:47 PM
“The next best thing to knowing something is knowing where to find it.”
― Samuel Johnson
The internet is a form of MEDIA. Everything you read is one person's opinion.
You don't always read the truth in a newspaper, or hear the truth on the radio or see it on TV. The internet is not any different.
I do believe that our field of knowledge can be expanded if we use a computer and the internet correctly!
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