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[SurferWife]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

All those on the plane chose to chance flying in bad weather except the nanny who had the choice made for her.

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That's quite a  heartless statement.  I think we are all aware they made the decision from their own volition to fly, well except for the babies.

[Sooner]

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@SurferWife wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

All those on the plane chose to chance flying in bad weather except the nanny who had the choice made for her.

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That's quite a  heartless statement.  I think we are all aware they made the decision from their own volition to fly, well except for the babies.

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@SurferWife My husband had to fly in winter storms, thunderstorm and severe storm weather--and I think many working people and military people have to.  It's a fact of life now.  You don't have a choice if you want the job.  I spent many hours worried sick about him.  

And things can happen any time--tragic accidents.  

[Cakers3]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

All those on the plane chose to chance flying in bad weather except the nanny who had the choice made for her.

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@occasionalrain You are mistaken. The weather at the Austin-Bergtrom International Airport in TEXAS was CALM AND WARM. Temp 80° with upper level clouds.

THIS IS WHERE THEY TOOK OFF THAT MORNING, NOT IN FLORIDA.

FACTS MATTER.

The convection storm in Florida developed rapidly too. 

You always think the worst and whether you think it's clever-it isn't.

From suicides to the death of the young man during the horse carriage ride to simple disgust over shopping carts - your posts are beyond heartless.

[occasionalrain]

Some enjoy feeling sorry for people who make poor choices, they make it their own and cry about it.  They are users of other's tragedy.

My sympathy is for those who have no choice, the horse for example.

[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Some enjoy feeling sorry for people who make poor choices, they make it their own and cry about it.  They are users of other's tragedy.

My sympathy is for those who have no choice, the horse for example.

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Having such a narrow view is indeed heartless. There's a difference between someone being co-dependent ("make it their own") and having compassion for anyone affected by tragedies and unfortunate events.

[Cakers3]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Some enjoy feeling sorry for people who make poor choices, they make it their own and cry about it.  They are users of other's tragedy.

My sympathy is for those who have no choice, the horse for example.

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@occasionalrain   You disregarded my post because you were wrong and therefore did not fit your agenda.

THEY DID NOT FLY OUT OF FLORIDA IN BAD WEATHER.

THEY FLEW OUT OF AUSTIN, TEXAS IN CALM AND WARM WEATHER. 

THE STORM IN FLORIDA CAME UP SUDDENLY AFTER THEY LEFT TEXAS.

DON'T PUT ME IN ANY CATEGORY AS USING SOMEONE ELSE'S TRAGEDY.

FACTS ARE FACTS.

IF WE ALL COULD PREDICT BAD WEATHER THAT HASN'T FORMED YET THE SKIES WOULD BE EMPTY OF PLANES.

YOU ARE JUST WRONG ABOUT THE DECISION MADE BY THE ADULTS TO FLY AND CANNOT OWN IT.

AND I'LL ASK AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE SYMPATHY ONLY FOR THE HORSE DID YOU EVER JOIN PEOPLE WHO EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THOSE RIDES BEFORE ? NO YOU DIDN'T.

YOU ARE USING TRAGEDIES YOURSELF TO JUDGE FROM YOUR HIGH HORSE ( NO PUN INTENDED) AND SOME DAY YOU WILL BE PUSHED OFF.

YET SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE ALWAYS DETERMINING WHO IS WORTHY OF

SYMPATHY I WILL TELL YOU THIS - YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF ALONE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

DONE.

[occasionalrain]

@Cakers3 

Texas is not Florida, the weather was not the same.

Florida had been experiencing poor weather conditions for awhile, it didn't just show up.

The pilot and Air Traffic Control are now being blamed for the crash.

When unfavorable weather developed the plane should have landed rather than chance continuing.

Unknown if the pilot conferred with the passengers before continuing, but the passengers could have taken the initiative  and questioned the decision at the time.

It seems every day, planes are involved in near misses,  emergency landings, wheels falling off, engine fires...

I wouldn't be flying now, much less taking children along on a chartered flight.

[Sooner]

With modern forecasting, weather conditions favorable for storms are known well ahead.  They know where conditions are ripe and evolving toward storm--and pretty close to what type of storms, where and when.

A thunderstorm that huge would be hard to miss visually I'd think.  I wasn't there.  

I am just saying that I find it surprising that that plane did not skirt that storm.  That's the only thing I would say from living in Oklahoma and being acquainted with activities and warnings around the National Severe Storms Lab and Weather Service.

[Mersha]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Some enjoy feeling sorry for people who make poor choices, they make it their own and cry about it.  They are users of other's tragedy.

My sympathy is for those who have no choice, the horse for example.

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@occasionalrain   You disregarded my post because you were wrong and therefore did not fit your agenda.

THEY DID NOT FLY OUT OF FLORIDA IN BAD WEATHER.

THEY FLEW OUT OF AUSTIN, TEXAS IN CALM AND WARM WEATHER. 

THE STORM IN FLORIDA CAME UP SUDDENLY AFTER THEY LEFT TEXAS.

DON'T PUT ME IN ANY CATEGORY AS USING SOMEONE ELSE'S TRAGEDY.

FACTS ARE FACTS.

IF WE ALL COULD PREDICT BAD WEATHER THAT HASN'T FORMED YET THE SKIES WOULD BE EMPTY OF PLANES.

YOU ARE JUST WRONG ABOUT THE DECISION MADE BY THE ADULTS TO FLY AND CANNOT OWN IT.

AND I'LL ASK AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE SYMPATHY ONLY FOR THE HORSE DID YOU EVER JOIN PEOPLE WHO EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THOSE RIDES BEFORE ? NO YOU DIDN'T.

YOU ARE USING TRAGEDIES YOURSELF TO JUDGE FROM YOUR HIGH HORSE ( NO PUN INTENDED) AND SOME DAY YOU WILL BE PUSHED OFF.

YET SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE ALWAYS DETERMINING WHO IS WORTHY OF

SYMPATHY I WILL TELL YOU THIS - YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF ALONE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

DONE.

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Good grief, calm down.  

Another poster has a difference of opinion which she is entitled to.