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[Judaline]

I hate when someone says, 'between you and I' or 'get off of that.' But I think 'I seen' is about the worst. Maybe youse is worse, can't decide. But to me it's like nails on a blackboard. Not talking about meth labs here-that ain't the point.

I don't think you can change people like us-if something bugs you it probably always will. We just can't help it.

[Judaline]

She's one of us.

[YorkieonmyPillow]

Most home-schooled teens who apply for college are better educated and have better social skills. Of course there are probably some HS moms who are slackers; but the majority of HS kids fare much better educationally.

[Vivian]

I served on the admissions committee of an Ivy League university. Home schooled students had almost no chance of being admitted. The reason was that in addition to their having academic challenges while making the transition to the university, they had more serious social problems adjusting to their newly-found independence on campus. The powers-that-be decided that with the evidnce of serious probems with home schooled students over several years, we were advised not to admit them.

[CardinalGirl]

We once attended a spelling bee in which my 2nd grade granddaughter was competing. One of the teachers was giving the word and using it in a sentence. One word was ""star"". Here is the sentence the teacher used: ""I seen a star in the sky.""

I kid you not. This teacher has now left the profession and is selling real estate.

[sophiamarie]

On 10/27/2014 Vivian said: Unfortunately, I've heard too many people saying, "I should have went." They should not be home schooling their children. I also hear "for you and I. " Would they also say, "for I?" The word should be "me." There's a difference between the subject of a sentence and the object of a preposition. Finally, the word data is plural. Datum is the singular, but nobody uses that word. People can say we should not be fussy but I disagree. It's not asking too much for people to master their native language.

How about "I should OF went"..... I see that here a lot too....

[LilacTree]

On 10/27/2014 Judaline said:

I hate when someone says, 'between you and I' or 'get off of that.' But I think 'I seen' is about the worst. Maybe youse is worse, can't decide. But to me it's like nails on a blackboard. Not talking about meth labs here-that ain't the point.

I don't think you can change people like us-if something bugs you it probably always will. We just can't help it.

"I seen" makes my ears explode. My one brother, the uneducated one, says it all the time and no matter how many times he is corrected, he still says it. And, oh, if that wasn't his only grammatical sin! Literally, the man cannot speak English, and he can't write it either.

[sophiamarie]

On 10/27/2014 Ford1224 said:

On 10/27/2014 Judaline said:

I hate when someone says, 'between you and I' or 'get off <em>of</em> that.' But I think 'I seen' is about the worst. Maybe youse is worse, can't decide. But to me it's like nails on a blackboard. Not talking about meth labs here-that ain't the point.

I don't think you can change people like us-if something bugs you it probably always will. We just can't help it.

"I seen" makes my ears explode. My one brother, the uneducated one, says it all the time and no matter how many times he is corrected, he still says it. And, oh, if that wasn't his only grammatical sin! Literally, the man cannot speak English, and he can't write it either.

If he's UNeducated, then what do you expect from him. Are you saying he is illiterate???

[suzyQ3]

On 10/26/2014 Isabella 2 said:

Just another example of the decline of our society.

So why worry - you can't change it.

Slightly O/T: I find that many who bemoan the decline of society do so for reasons that fit a political agenda more than that they are in mortal fear of a perceived loss of grammar skills. They tend to be of the belief that the increasing acceptance of differences among us, diversity, and changes in gender roles, just to name a few, are threats to our way of life.

Back on topic: Anyone can make a mistake. It doesn't then directly correlate to any sweeping generalization. Public school teachers, private school teachers, and home-schooling teachers are all human, last time I checked. I do think that being able to communicate clearly is important, but it's more the means to an end than the end itself, which IMO is to help a person learn to think rationally and logically.

Language skills and critical thinking are a result of a concerted effort by teachers and parents to instill a love of learning. Reading, reading, and more reading -- fiction, history, social studies, economics, etc., all geared toward the particular age group.

What doesn't foster a love of learning is forced rote memorization where there are other more effective methods or needless or harsh criticism. And speaking of harsh criticism, posters here who nitpick other poster's errors in grammar or spelling without provocation and who announce that they are amazed at the ignorance of their fellow posters (yes, I've seen it many times) simply reveal their own weak ability to communicate effectively.

With very few exceptions, I would always opt for teaching students in a school setting. I think that it's the better way to prepare them academically and socially for life in a diverse world.

[LilacTree]

On 10/27/2014 sophiamarie said:

On 10/27/2014 Ford1224 said:

On 10/27/2014 Judaline said:

I hate when someone says, 'between you and I' or 'get off <em>of</em> that.' But I think 'I seen' is about the worst. Maybe youse is worse, can't decide. But to me it's like nails on a blackboard. Not talking about meth labs here-that ain't the point.

I don't think you can change people like us-if something bugs you it probably always will. We just can't help it.

"I seen" makes my ears explode. My one brother, the uneducated one, says it all the time and no matter how many times he is corrected, he still says it. And, oh, if that wasn't his only grammatical sin! Literally, the man cannot speak English, and he can't write it either.

If he's UNeducated, then what do you expect from him. Are you saying he is illiterate???

Explain the difference to me and perhaps I'll answer your question.