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[LyndaGee]

On 1/13/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/13/2015 LyndaGee said:

As long as he misbehaves, he will be in the news. A smart person would keep their nose clean and keep a low profile, but ...

I agree with you 100%.

He seems addicted to trouble...and involving law enforcement.

Most people go through their entire lives w/o getting in the kind of trouble he has attracted over the last several years.

I know. He's one messed up dude. But, he's "famous" and his brushes with the law will always make news.

[scotttie]

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/12/2015 dooBdoo said:

I agree with you, <em>chickenbutt</em>. I would add: Not directed at any particular person, but I'm not sure why we're being told not to discuss this topic or direct our concerns to the courts, etc.

doo: Nobody was told not to discuss this topic. The problem is that anybody who sways one iota away from disagreeing 100% about the original trial has been summarily taken down and dismissed as supporting him.

The FL court system is germane to Z - it was the stand your ground law that allowed Z to walk free. Personally, I believe the law is flawed beyond being reasonable and that is why the issue is brought up. It's as valid a point of discussion as all the other points.

His prior domestic abuse has nothing to do with that trial. It is not the same as OJ - OJ's domestic abuse related to Nicole, the very woman he was accused of murdering.

If Z had had other confrontations with Trayvon, then it would have been valid evidence. A person with a domestic abuse/other violent acts tag is not necessarily guilty of another crime. We know this.

Some will not rest until Z is behind bars for life. They want Z punished for that night with Trayvon, and will only consider justice served if Z is sent away for good - no matter the crime - it will always be about the perception that Z's punishment will be for Trayvon and nothing else.

I still say that this latest issue with Z isn't worth national news. Had there been something else that came to light regarding Trayvon, great. But it's just another media blitz, following him as though this is going to ever change the death of Tray or the outcome of the trial.

People are seeking revenge anyway they can get it.

Good post Cakers. One minor correction...he didn't use the stand your ground defense. He used plain ole "self defense". And Florida law says that you may use self defense if "in your mind" you are in fear for your life. The fact that Trayvon smashed him in the nose and bruised his head gave him cover for that defense. That and the witnesses who corroborated his version.

[Cakers1]

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[Cakers1]

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/13/2015 scotttie said:

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/12/2015 dooBdoo said:

I agree with you, <em>chickenbutt</em>. I would add: Not directed at any particular person, but I'm not sure why we're being told not to discuss this topic or direct our concerns to the courts, etc.

doo: Nobody was told not to discuss this topic. The problem is that anybody who sways one iota away from disagreeing 100% about the original trial has been summarily taken down and dismissed as supporting him.

The FL court system is germane to Z - it was the stand your ground law that allowed Z to walk free. Personally, I believe the law is flawed beyond being reasonable and that is why the issue is brought up. It's as valid a point of discussion as all the other points.

His prior domestic abuse has nothing to do with that trial. It is not the same as OJ - OJ's domestic abuse related to Nicole, the very woman he was accused of murdering.

If Z had had other confrontations with Trayvon, then it would have been valid evidence. A person with a domestic abuse/other violent acts tag is not necessarily guilty of another crime. We know this.

Some will not rest until Z is behind bars for life. They want Z punished for that night with Trayvon, and will only consider justice served if Z is sent away for good - no matter the crime - it will always be about the perception that Z's punishment will be for Trayvon and nothing else.

I still say that this latest issue with Z isn't worth national news. Had there been something else that came to light regarding Trayvon, great. But it's just another media blitz, following him as though this is going to ever change the death of Tray or the outcome of the trial.

People are seeking revenge anyway they can get it.

Good post Cakers. One minor correction...he didn't use the stand your ground defense. He used plain ole "self defense". And Florida law says that you may use self defense if "in your mind" you are in fear for your life. The fact that Trayvon smashed him in the nose and bruised his head gave him cover for that defense. That and the witnesses who corroborated his version.

Thank you Scottie - my error. Good to see you btw.

[scotttie]

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/13/2015 scotttie said:

On 1/13/2015 Cakers1 said:

On 1/12/2015 dooBdoo said:

I agree with you, <em>chickenbutt</em>. I would add: Not directed at any particular person, but I'm not sure why we're being told not to discuss this topic or direct our concerns to the courts, etc.

doo: Nobody was told not to discuss this topic. The problem is that anybody who sways one iota away from disagreeing 100% about the original trial has been summarily taken down and dismissed as supporting him.

The FL court system is germane to Z - it was the stand your ground law that allowed Z to walk free. Personally, I believe the law is flawed beyond being reasonable and that is why the issue is brought up. It's as valid a point of discussion as all the other points.

His prior domestic abuse has nothing to do with that trial. It is not the same as OJ - OJ's domestic abuse related to Nicole, the very woman he was accused of murdering.

If Z had had other confrontations with Trayvon, then it would have been valid evidence. A person with a domestic abuse/other violent acts tag is not necessarily guilty of another crime. We know this.

Some will not rest until Z is behind bars for life. They want Z punished for that night with Trayvon, and will only consider justice served if Z is sent away for good - no matter the crime - it will always be about the perception that Z's punishment will be for Trayvon and nothing else.

I still say that this latest issue with Z isn't worth national news. Had there been something else that came to light regarding Trayvon, great. But it's just another media blitz, following him as though this is going to ever change the death of Tray or the outcome of the trial.

People are seeking revenge anyway they can get it.

Good post Cakers. One minor correction...he didn't use the stand your ground defense. He used plain ole "self defense". And Florida law says that you may use self defense if "in your mind" you are in fear for your life. The fact that Trayvon smashed him in the nose and bruised his head gave him cover for that defense. That and the witnesses who corroborated his version.

Thank you Scottie - my error. Good to see you btw.