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[Mersha]

@Still Raining  That is quite possible.

This is an Irish family with very common Irish last names. 

That makes things a challenge.

[katie1859]

The term BELOVED is referred to as a dear one

So it could be any, even a child

[NYCLatinaMe]

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@Mersha wrote:

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@NYCLatinaMe wrote:

@Mersha  Does the male "beloved" have a last name.  Is the male's last name the same as that of the female?  Does it look like they are both buried there, or just the female?

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@NYCLatinaMe  Yes, "beloved" has a first name, last name and date of death.  His last name is different from others listed on the stone.

Nothing is coming up on him.  I have an Ancestry membership going now so have access to many records.   He remains a mystery.

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@Mersha  Very interesting!  So I'm leaning child.  Maybe through your resources you can find whether the female had any descendants.  I am leaning to the male being a child, as others have suggested, which would explain both in the same grave, different last names.  Maybe death in childbirth?  Not rare.  Sorry if this makes you sad.  Love "finding your roots" on pbs.  Don't know if you watch.  Interesting show.  We do learn history.

[Still Raining]

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@Mersha wrote:

@Still Raining  That is quite possible.

This is an Irish family with very common Irish last names. 

That makes things a challenge.

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If his dates indicate he is an adult, Ireland has put wonderful data sets out there for free.

I have a MacBean who came over from Scotland for a few generations and then I nabbed him on a passenger list from Ireland.  Once you have a name and date there is a lot drill back with.  Lost the trail by the early 1700s.  

[Mersha]

@Still Raining  Isn't it wonderful when you find relatives on a passenger list traveling from Europe to the US...I love that.

I am having difficulty with the Irish part of the family.  They are a bit harder to track down.

One of my best finds was relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War and came to the US years before.

There are all sorts of interesting finds but you do go down many rabbit holes to get there.

[drizzellla]

I had spent quite a bit of time working with census records, looking at our family records.

My Dad's parents had my Dad's Mother's brother living with them for a number of years.

Because it was my Dad's Mother's brother his last name was different from my Dad's Mother and Father. From what I could tell the brother never married. But he moved out when my Dad and his sister got a bit older.

So I could see that maybe when this Uncle passed, he would have been buried with my Dad's parents, since he lived with them for awhile.

[beach-mom]

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@Mersha wrote:

@Still Raining  Isn't it wonderful when you find relatives on a passenger list traveling from Europe to the US...I love that.

I am having difficulty with the Irish part of the family.  They are a bit harder to track down.

One of my best finds was relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War and came to the US years before.

There are all sorts of interesting finds but you do go down many rabbit holes to get there.

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@Mersha - Descendants of those who were here during the Revolutionary War are eligible for membership in the Daughters of the American Revolution of the Sons of Liberty. So you and your descendants can join these groups.

Most of my family came later. My paternal grandfather, who died when my father was 16, came from Switzerland in the early 1900's. My maternal great-grandfather came from England in the late 1800's. I'm not sure about other relatives, although I would like to research it sometime.

BUT - we found out when DH's only aunt died she was an active member of the DAR, which means my children are eligible for membership in these groups. I have heard members speak before. They seem to be service oriented and they promote American history, which I think is needed.

 I excitedly told DD, who was somewhat unimpressed. DS was even less so. And DH is not the joining kind. Oh well!  

[beach-mom]

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@LizzieInSRQ wrote:

 @Mersha @@If you go to FindAGrave dot com you may be able to put the name in of the female and it may link to the " beloved  " and show some information. If anyone has followed up on it.  There are volunteers all over the country who take photos and log info.

This is how I found my dad's grave and also found out how his stupid 2nd wife put the wrong date of death on the tombstone by a month. I called the cemetery but they wont do anything about it unless I buy a new stone. My dad abandoned me so forget that.

Fair warning this is a most fascinating site for people like me, The rabbit hole is deeeeep.  Just looking up British  Royal Family, I can get lost for hours. 

Let us know if you find out anything,

Enjoy!

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@LizzieInSRQ - I didn't know this was handled by volunteers. That explains a lot. My mom and my brother, who died at 28, are buried together in Mom's family plot. Their smaller stone says "mom" and "son" with the dates and a saying below.

For a long time this organization had them as married, which really bothered me. I tried to contact them to change it, but heard nothing. One time I was going down the "rabbit hole" I noticed it was finally correct. 

I tried to send information on another relative and got nowhere. 

It is nice, even though there are hiccups, people volunteer to help with this. 

[Mersha]

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@beach-mom wrote:

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@Mersha wrote:

@Still Raining  Isn't it wonderful when you find relatives on a passenger list traveling from Europe to the US...I love that.

I am having difficulty with the Irish part of the family.  They are a bit harder to track down.

One of my best finds was relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War and came to the US years before.

There are all sorts of interesting finds but you do go down many rabbit holes to get there.

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@Mersha - Descendants of those who were here during the Revolutionary War are eligible for membership in the Daughters of the American Revolution of the Sons of Liberty. So you and your descendants can join these groups.

Most of my family came later. My paternal grandfather, who died when my father was 16, came from Switzerland in the early 1900's. My maternal great-grandfather came from England in the late 1800's. I'm not sure about other relatives, although I would like to research it sometime.

BUT - we found out when DH's only aunt died she was an active member of the DAR, which means my children are eligible for membership in these groups. I have heard members speak before. They seem to be service oriented and they promote American history, which I think is needed.

 I excitedly told DD, who was somewhat unimpressed. DS was even less so. And DH is not the joining kind. Oh well!  

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@beach-mom  I may look into joining the DAR and let the children and grandchildren know they can do the same.

My granddaughter had to do a presentation on ancestors at the time I discovered our Revolultionary War relatives.  I copied all those war documents available online and her classmates thought it was neat. 

She managed to go back the furthest in her class.

I am amazed some of these documents were preserved through the years.

Thanks for your post!