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Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@mstyrion 1 wrote:
@RinaRina wrote:
@rosie03 wrote:
Who supports them once they are here?

Your taxes.

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Would you provide an official source that confirms this?
I know it is a popular opinion, but I haven't seen information that outlines exactly how this is handled.

There was a thread on here several days ago where someone shared a link to a site that showed just this. Showed just how much and how long people coming in qualified for in governmental funding. Don't know if I can find it again, but will try.

biancardi · ‎03-10-2010

@Mominohio wrote:
@biancardi wrote:

@Jackaranda wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

as a human being we all have responsibility to care for other human beings.....no matter where they are from.....being "tapped out" is not an excuse in my opinion.
And that is why our deficit is so large. Our counties can take in their share. We have already done our share in history.

Well, that isn't true. Other countries (and they are truly impoverished countries) are taking in a lot more than we are. And no, we haven't done our share in history. I didn't know that humanitarian aid and compassion had a ceiling.

Our deficit is so large because we keep cutting taxes and starting wars - without paying for them. We paid for our wars pre Vietnam and since then, we don't. If we are going to have services (which we need, unless we want to be a 3rd world country), we have to stop cutting taxes. We have the lowest rates in decades and this is why this country is in trouble.

Perhaps some wish to pay more taxes, I don't. The more you tax people, the less they are willing to GIVE.

This nation was not founded to take from those here to redistrubute it within or outside our borders. The refugee issue needs to be more a privately funded affair, with less tax money spent on it.

If we are such a blessed and rich nation (and we are) there will be many step up to (help) pay for this through the private sector.

give to what? To churches? how does that help the nation as a whole? It doesn't. And no, the more you tax people has nothing to do with private donations. Our country had taxed the wealthy quite a bit after WWII to PAY for our wars, and guess what happened?

yeah - our economy boomed. The wealthy decided instead of hording their money as they would be taxed on it, they turned it around, hired more people, became innovative, invested back into communities. I know my history, thank you very much.

This nation WAS FOUNDED ON THE GENERAL WELFARE. No, sorry. Our private sector won't do it. They look for handouts themselves.

We as a country need to be an example and we still are the richest in the world.

If you can't fix what's broken, you'll go insane ~ Max
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Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@Maudelynn wrote:
@RedConvertibleGirl wrote:
@mstyrion 1 wrote:
@RinaRina wrote:
@rosie03 wrote:
Who supports them once they are here?

Your taxes.

_________________________________________________

Would you provide an official source that confirms this?
I know it is a popular opinion, but I haven't seen information that outlines exactly how this is handled.

Seriously?! Who the heck do you think is going to pay for them? The last figure I saw, and I forget where so I'm sorry I can't site the course, said $640,000,000 is the cost to the taxpayers. Yes, that's MILLIONS.
How does that impact you or your family? It's pennies per taxpayer in the overall national and state budgets. Or is it just the idea that bombed out families shouldn't get a nickel of your tax dollars?

Seriously?????

There are fewer and fewer Americans paying taxes all the time, and those that still are, are being hosed.

We have our own large subculture of citizens that do nothing to contribute to the wealth of this nation, only take. We have tons of illegal immigrants (yes, I said it) draining the systems. We have millions dropped out of the job market or underemployed and not paying taxes like they once did.

So adding millions and millions more draining the system isn't affecting my family. Oh yes it is.

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Mominohio wrote:
@biancardi wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

Since I work and am personally a taxpayer, I don't mind paying to HELP SAVE some lives.

Just realize that you aren't the only tax payer, and other are suggesting/demanding a more thorough and cautious approach in these dangerous times. Only one facet of what we should do to combat terrorism as there isn't just one way it gets here.

I think to get a clear picture, one should live in or work in a sanctuary city and study the economic impact to residents in that town and the entire State.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@biancardi wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

as a human being we all have responsibility to care for other human beings.....no matter where they are from.....being "tapped out" is not an excuse in my opinion.
And that is why our deficit is so large. Our counties take in their share. We have already done our share in history.

i so disagree.........and as time continues and marches forward so do our responsibilites as citizens of the world.
Everything and everyone has limits, and financial ones as well.

considering our taxes are at the lowest in decades, we need to raise them. Sorry, but our nation is spoiled to the hilt over taxes and not paying for anything.

Our spending needs to be curtailed, taxes lowered, and have private charity step up and fund more refugees. Our nation is broke (acutally we'd be good if it was just broke, but so far in debt you can't even count the zeros and more). And the more taxes they take the more money they spend (at all levels of government).

It is insane to say that we are not paying for anything (through taxes). I know we are, but if you aren't please sent in more each quarter. Sure the government will be glad to mishandle it for you.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@biancardi wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@biancardi wrote:

@Jackaranda wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

as a human being we all have responsibility to care for other human beings.....no matter where they are from.....being "tapped out" is not an excuse in my opinion.
And that is why our deficit is so large. Our counties can take in their share. We have already done our share in history.

Well, that isn't true. Other countries (and they are truly impoverished countries) are taking in a lot more than we are. And no, we haven't done our share in history.   I didn't know that humanitarian aid and compassion had a ceiling.

Our deficit is so large because we keep cutting taxes and starting wars - without paying for them. We paid for our wars pre Vietnam and since then, we don't.    If we are going to have services (which we need, unless we want to be a 3rd world country), we have to stop cutting taxes. We have the lowest rates in decades and this is why this country is in trouble.

Perhaps some wish to pay more taxes, I don't. The more you tax people, the less they are willing to GIVE.

This nation was not founded to take from those here to redistrubute it within or outside our borders. The refugee issue needs to be more a privately funded affair, with less tax money spent on it.

If we are such a blessed and rich nation (and we are) there will be many step up to (help) pay for this through the private sector.

give to what? To churches? how does that help the nation as a whole?   It doesn't. And no, the more you tax people has nothing to do with private donations. Our country had taxed the wealthy quite a bit after WWII to PAY for our wars, and guess what happened?

yeah - our economy boomed. The wealthy decided instead of hording their money as they would be taxed on it, they turned it around, hired more people, became innovative, invested back into communities. I know my history, thank you very much.

This nation WAS FOUNDED ON THE GENERAL WELFARE.    No, sorry. Our private sector won't do it. They look for handouts themselves.

We as a country need to be an example and we still are the richest in the world.

Yes, to churches and other private charities. And what the heck do you mean how does this help the nation as a whole? Do you not read the news. Do you not see how much private charity generates and gives in this nation. Have you never heard of food pantries, and homeless shelters, and halfway houses and scores of other charities that the people of this nation fund privately? The number of people served, and helped. Why should the government ineffectively take even more money, to grow their ranks and inefficiently hand it out in ways that never are cost effective?

This nation was not founded on the general welfare. It was founded on people having the freedoms, including economic freedoms, to make money and keep money. When people do that, they invest, hire, start businesses, and give to charity, but if taxed excessively, they no longer can or will.

Don't think you know real history at all.

Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

OMG. LOL.

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

60sgirl · ‎11-24-2014

@Mominohio wrote:
@biancardi wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

as a human being we all have responsibility to care for other human beings.....no matter where they are from.....being "tapped out" is not an excuse in my opinion.
And that is why our deficit is so large. Our counties take in their share. We have already done our share in history.

i so disagree.........and as time continues and marches forward so do our responsibilites as citizens of the world.
Everything and everyone has limits, and financial ones as well.

considering our taxes are at the lowest in decades, we need to raise them. Sorry, but our nation is spoiled to the hilt over taxes and not paying for anything.
Our spending needs to be curtailed, taxes lowered, and have private charity step up and fund more refugees. Our nation is broke (acutally we'd be good if it was just broke, but so far in debt you can't even count the zeros and more). And the more taxes they take the more money they spend (at all levels of government).

It is insane to say that we are not paying for anything (through taxes). I know we are, but if you aren't please sent in more each quarter. Sure the government will be glad to mishandle it for you.

Seriously? Which group do you think should pay more taxes because they are spolied? So far, I don't think I've seen one candidate telling Americans if I'm elected, I'll raise taxes! And the people of this country would vote for someone like that.

Maybe you're spoiled but I know I'm not.

I'm done with P.C. Just say what you mean and mean what you say. It's easier.

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

Come to NJ if you want to talk taxes....11 sanctuary cities and five surround my town....really no impact?

Nancy Drew · ‎03-11-2010

@biancardi wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@biancardi wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.

Since I work and am personally a taxpayer, I don't mind paying to HELP SAVE some lives.

Just realize that you aren't the only tax payer, and other are suggesting/demanding a more thorough and cautious approach in these dangerous times. Only one facet of what we should do to combat terrorism as there isn't just one way it gets here.
I was responding to the wife of another taxpayer, so I DO realize that. Thank you for pointing out the obvious. I have confidence in the current screening process as it has been in place for a few years now. There are many who are ashamed of the knee jerk rhetoric instead of thoughtful discourse.