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09-16-2016 04:46 PM
Here we go.................I don't know any parent who tells their chidlren that they won't like a certain veg. I never did that, either.
I said if you present it with It's good for you you will like it then THAT a wrong move.
Especially for picky eaters.
We were served our food with no fan fare. No expectations.
09-16-2016 04:57 PM
@Noel7 wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@Trinity11 wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@Trinity11 wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
Hi John
I think it's not knowing, a lack of information and the prevalence of fast food and no time to cook for many families.
It's too bad. I don't know what the answer is.
Noel, I read the report on Huffington Post and what they failed to introduce is the topic of children refusing to eat. Many parents introduce healthy foods and their child will just not eat. I had it with my children and my daughter has been very concerned about my grandson and whether he is getting the proper nutrients. Children often have a mind of their own and are pretty stubborn when it comes to what they will eat. The lowly french fry is often times all a parent can get a child to eat in a restaurant. Finicky eaters abound.... I don't put blame on the young parents of today. I think it is an age old problem.
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Hi @Trinity11
I never put the blame on young people and I didn't with this subject.
I stand by thinking most people don't know a lot about nutrition, and that's not age specific.
I know about finiky kids, we have them in our extended family. As I said before, I don't know what the answer is.
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No, you didn't put the blame on young parents but the article implied that parents are not feeding their kids in a healthy manner. It did in fact lead to some comments...sids mom went so far as to say it was almost child abuse if a parent feeds their child under 1 a French fry.
I really believe that things haven't changed all that much in regards to nutrition. People in general eat foods that are appealing and nutrition takes a back seat. Then there are the various voices in the medical community with conflicting advice...the perfect recipe for indecisiveness in what really is a healthy diet. I think most do the best they can...
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Gee, I really missed several posts.
I saw the comment about "child abuse" and just rolled my eyes.
I also think most people try their best, but a lot of information just isn't out there. Also, like I said before, so many families of all ages just don't have the time to make good meals from scratch anymore. Work hours and extracurricular activities take a lot of time.
When the subject came up a couple of years ago, many older people did not know that as we age, it's harder for our bodies to absorb vitamin D, even from milk or sunshine.
I just don't buy this. It takes little time to put something together at home that's nutritious. You could do it in the time it takes to go to the drive through.
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I wasn't talking about drive throughs. IMO people who haven't raised kids have no idea what evenings are like, especially for working parents.
But yes, I know for sure preparing a well balanced home-cooked meal with fresh ingredients for a family takes a lot longer than a drive-through, although I would not recommend a drive-through.
O.K., guess I don't know where you are saying these super busy people are getting food from then. If they have no time for real food.
I'm out of here, so just wanted to say that really the only point I was making was that good nutrition starts at home.
I had no intention of getting into a discussion about kids being "forced" to eat things that make them ill. I certainly would never advocate that!
TTFN!
09-16-2016 05:02 PM
09-16-2016 05:07 PM
There's been a real breakthrough with food around here lately. There are A LOT of new businesses that provide fresh/healthy meals delivered for people.
Some are just the ingredients along with a recipe for what you chose. Nice for people who don't have time to pick up fresh food daily. They have been shown to charge less for ingredients than grocery stores.
Also cooked meals, some are really inexpensive. One works with local hospitals and will deliver a chosen basic meal for $5 each.
09-16-2016 05:12 PM
@Noel7 wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
KittyLouWhoToo wrote
When I was growing up (oh, no, I don't want to sound like the "when I was a kid" thing hahahaha BUT) my mother fed us what we used to call "3 squares" (I think we got that from the Army). We, as kids, didn't get to eat Oreos and Coke for breakfast (because they "taste good") or pizza and Coke for lunch (YUM!) or fast food for dinner (oh, who has time to cook?). We ate the simple food my mother prepared. And it was real food. If we didn't want it, we didn't eat. The end. Yes, I do believe that my eating habits were established (or, at the very least, strongly influenced) by how I grew up.
I hear so many stories these days about finicky kids, how they eat ****** for breakfast, lunch, and dinner because they "won't eat" anything else. Well, if you get hungry enough you'll eat "anything else".
Yes, some of it is decidedly parents who just give in to get along. I know this won't be a popular viewpoint, but I believe it's true.
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ITA.
You hit the nail on the head.
"Simple food".
Salt. Oil. Sugar. They stimulate the palette.
Now add chemical flavorings, MSG, isolates, etc. We're getting our children addicted to these things in infancy...and I'm sure some would say in utero.
French fries. There's no logical reason why a parent would feed their child a French fry. It's obvious the parent created that taste. Hand the child a boiled potato with s/p..plenty of calories, very nutritious, easy & cheap.
Finicky kids is another way of saying spoiled kids.
And finicky kids grow up to be very spoiled adults who refuse to change their ways. Modern day illnesses don't happen overnight.
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I am always amazed by how little you know about kids or anything medical.
Try reading the article @Moonchilde posted. For many finicky kids it's about food allergies.
For mine, her refusal to drink milk when little turned out to be lactose intolerance, a problem that affects up to 70% of the world's children.
It's not that she was "lactose intolerant" or allergies.
It's because she wasn't a Baby Cow.
Allergies & Gut microbiome (aka Gut flora, "Healthy" gut).
Many are beginning to connect the two.
Several weeks ago, our peanut allergy conversation came to mind. I mentioned it to my everything-Paleo-meat-chomping personal trainer...and he says the same thing as this plant-based girl.
Bad gut, bad allergies.
There are even hints having weak Gut Microbiome could alter DNA in future generations.
Sidenote: Working moms are so 'busy' that have to serve cr.ap to kids? Nah, it's just lazy. My mom, a Nebraska (shout out to @hckynut) farmer's wife had 4 kids, in cloth diapers, fixing 3 huge meals every day for the family, dressing chickens, doing chores, working the fields when needed & cooked 3 meals for our summer hired harvesters of 10....all while no air conditioning & bad plumbing. Too "busy" you have to go to McDonald's? Nah. Weak priorities.
09-16-2016 05:37 PM - edited 09-16-2016 05:40 PM
@sidsmom wrote:It's not that she was "lactose intolerant" or allergies.
It's because she wasn't a Baby Cow.
Allergies & Gut microbiome (aka Gut flora, "Healthy" gut).
Many are beginning to connect the two.
Several weeks ago, our peanut allergy conversation came to mind. I mentioned it to my everything-Paleo-meat-chomping personal trainer...and he says the same thing as this plant-based girl.
Bad gut, bad allergies.
There are even hints having weak Gut Microbiome could alter DNA in future generations.
Sidenote: Working moms are so 'busy' that have to serve cr.ap to kids? Nah, it's just lazy. My mom, a Nebraska (shout out to @hckynut) farmer's wife had 4 kids, in cloth diapers, fixing 3 huge meals every day for the family, dressing chickens, doing chores, working the fields when needed & cooked 3 meals for our summer hired harvesters of 10....all while no air conditioning & bad plumbing. Too "busy" you have to go to McDonald's? Nah. Weak priorities.
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Lactose intolerance is not limited to cows, lactose is also in human milk.
No one but you and one other said the alternative is ****** or fast food. The argument was about time and kids.
The issues with microbiomes are related to the overuse of antibiotics.
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