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06-01-2016 08:45 PM
@Noel7 I don't know about NYC, but everywhere I've lived, police officers are in huge demand to work security jobs in their off hours which pay a ridiculously high hourly rate. They also get frequent overtime for working special events like the visits of political candidates. It's not unusual for them to pull in $100,000/yr or more. Almost all have some sideline job they work. My DH was a deputy sheriff and ran a construction company.
06-01-2016 08:45 PM
@Burnsite wrote:Oh, yuck to these posts about the parents. Food assistance for children is crucial. 1 in 5 children in the US doesn't have enough food. 1 in 5.
I don't know how some of you people sleep at night.
Because some of us are exhausted from providing for our children, and helping others where we can.
I have no guilt because I can't save the world. That really isn't productive in the least. More attention, time and resources to focus on the truly needy when not languishing in what isn't , but focusing on what I can do.
06-01-2016 08:47 PM
I have no problem with programs that help give people a hand up out of a bad situation. Life is hard and sometimes bad things happen. Those in need should use the help. It's just that it's not supposed to become a lifestyle. I think when it does, that's when folks become upset and feel like the program, and the money involved, is being misused. JMHO
06-01-2016 08:49 PM
@IamMrsG wrote:
mominohio wrote, in part: It is amazing how many people there are out there that will take anything that is free, whether they need it or not.
If they do not need it, they will take it around the corner and sell it.
These people are defective. Thank goodness the majority of people forced to seek charity do it because they are in need. Shame on the states for taking food out of people's mouth while allowing the wealthy to get tax breaks for Lear jets and second homes.
06-01-2016 08:52 PM
Fortunately, the schools are aware of the problem and make sure kids have a good breakfast and lunch. On weekends we have charities that distribute box lunches to kids. The schools are even providing box lunches in the summertime, distributed at designated places in neighborhood parks.
It's the children for whom I'm concerned. They should never go hungry in the USA.
06-01-2016 08:54 PM - edited 06-01-2016 08:57 PM
@Kalli wrote:I have no problem with programs that help give people a hand up out of a bad situation. Life is hard and sometimes bad things happen. Those in need should use the help. It's just that it's not supposed to become a lifestyle. I think when it does, that's when folks become upset and feel like the program, and the money involved, is being misused. JMHO
This is exactly it. I personally don't know anyone who is against a hand up. It is the life long cradle to grave, complete support that our welfare system has turned into (couple that with 5th generation welfare families and people here illegally draining the system) that has many enraged.
I don't see how anyone could deny that we are spending more than ever and reaching further into people's lives with food, medical care, education, housing, utility help, phones, etc. etc. etc. yet we still have more and more people entering and staying on the system.
What we have done, and what we are doing is not working. Throwing more money at it, and making everything free obviously isn't the answer.
Edited to add. I have always believed people need to have some skin in the game for them to take things seriously. Until we mandate that for ALL those who are able, to the extent they are able, and stick to it, things won't change.
06-01-2016 08:55 PM
The article says that benefits will be cut for those 18-49 who are not disabled and who have no children. This doesn't impact children. And not all states are impacted. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country in my city and, yet, you can't drive down the street without seeing billboards begging people to work. Most 18-49 year-olds who are not disabled should be able to find something to cover their cutoff in the SNAP program.
06-01-2016 08:57 PM
@MaggieMack wrote:The article says that benefits will be cut for those 18-49 who are not disabled and who have no children. This doesn't impact children. And not all states are impacted. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country in my city and, yet, you can't drive down the street without seeing billboards begging people to work. Most 18-49 year-olds who are not disabled should be able to find something to cover their cutoff in the SNAP program.
I am glad they at least knew that it is hard to get a job when one is 50+.
06-01-2016 09:03 PM
@MaggieMack wrote:The article says that benefits will be cut for those 18-49 who are not disabled and who have no children. This doesn't impact children. And not all states are impacted. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country in my city and, yet, you can't drive down the street without seeing billboards begging people to work. Most 18-49 year-olds who are not disabled should be able to find something to cover their cutoff in the SNAP program.
Thank you for clarifying that. That was my understanding after a quick skim of the OP.
But whenever the topic of welfare related programs come up, people start screaming about the children first, even when it doesn't apply, like in this instance.
And what people seem to forget here is that children in the poverty range are fed at school at least twice a day now, for free (or very reduced) and many federal programs and local programs pick up that duty in the summer.
So while I don't deny that there are hungry children in this nation, most of them are seeing food daily, something my mother and her sisters didn't get when growing up in the 1930's and 40's. There was no safety net then, and they went hungry very often. But you know what, it was a motivator. None of the 6 of them ever allowed that to happen to their children. They over came lack of education (none of them graduated high school), poverty, and other things I won't mention here, to provide for their families. Seems the more we give, the less people do for themselves.
06-01-2016 09:08 PM
The topic of children came up because a poster suggested that those with children should also be included in the cut.
Hunger is a motivator for children. Ugh.
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