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[gertrudecloset]

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@CelticCrafter wrote:

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

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@CelticCrafter wrote:

Y'all need to read the FAQ's about Ancestry Classroom especially this one which I copied and pasted from the website.

Are my students not allowed to create their own trees on the classroom site?

No, students are prohibited from creating their own trees on the site. This is because we strive to be COPPA compliant so no personal information from students can be saved directly on the site. Should your curriculum require that your students build family trees, the Resources tab has printable charts and forms that will allow them to keep track of information using pen and paper. They are also free to print and/or save most of the records they find while using the site. This can be helpful when trying to build reports or use history.

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What's the point then @CelticCrafter ?  There will be unnecessary conversations about which historical figure to study.  Furthermore, a lot of surprises might be gleamed from such an undertaking (snakes in closets).  Let this be an individual/family activity and leave it out school.

Go back and tell who really was in America before Colombus, they should start there.

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The point is, ICYMI, posters were concerned that it would have students making family trees.  They won't.

@gertrudecloset Stay away from my posts.....

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Then don't post @CelticCrafter .  Everyone here has a right to respond with an opinion and have a discussion about this subject matter.  If you don't like my posts, don't read them.  If you don't want me to read your posts ~ well, then don't post anything!

[Gorgf]

I had an assignment in High School Biology  Sophomore year in the late 60s to do a Family Tree? I thought it odd even then. I was able to talk to Grandparents on both sides. My Mother's Father abandoned the family of six children so was not involved. It was a pass/ fail grade. That was in a all white suburban  school back in the day. 

I see both sides but agree it could be a painful assignment for some. Yes,it could be a touchy subject for some students and to me not sensitive to a student's feelings that could arise.

[CalminHeart]

I love it!  What a way to teach kids that history is important and interesting.

I'm sure it's not all that will be taught in a semester but what an opportunity to learn about people in 1940. That's history.

[CalminHeart]

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@qualitygal wrote:

I'd rather they do this in class than some things I have learned they use in school to teach kids now.  Some I am horrified about, this, I would have no problem with, but I know nothing of any worth about my ancestors.  

What happened to just reading, writing and arithmatic.  Hows their SAT's going since the pandemic.  Can they do those, just to get along in the world.  

I would think Ancestry, would be for older students as an elective course leading to an eventual employent area.  ?????

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Reading, writing and arithmetic worked in 1950. The world has changed so much and that limited type of education won't do anything but put someone in a low paying job.

It's important that kids learn how to think, not memorize. Critical thinking skills and more knowledge are what keep people out of poverty and low paying jobs.

Back in my day, a h.s. education was enough. It isn't anymore. I prayed my kids would pursue higher education. They all have Bachelor's degrees and multiple Masters degrees. As a result, the are productive adults and have careers that most could only dreamed about.  

[JamandBread]

Part of the reason we have people believing lies and fantastical conspiracy theories is because critical thinking and research skills are sorely lacking. People rely on easy talking points and don't bother to find out the underlying facts. Its dangerous to swallow lies. We are living the results.

The Ancestory teaching resource is not for kids to use to find the black sheep in their family. Its used to teach them how to find information and how to run it down to its source and discern the validity.

[gertrudecloset]

DNA ancestry tests may help you learn more about yourself and your familial roots. People often use DNA ancestry tests to find out their ethnic makeup and family history. However, you should be skeptical of the results of these tests since DNA testing companies that provide these services use methods that aren’t validated by independent scientists.‌

 

Types of Ancestry DNA Testing

There are several types of DNA ancestry tests available to the public:

• Y chromosome testing. Y chromosome testing is exclusively used to test a direct male line. The chromosomes are passed down from father to son. This DNA ancestry test may be performed to confirm if two families sharing a surname are related.
• Mitochondrial DNA testing. There are structures within living cells called mitochondria that provide energy to the cell. These structures may be tested because they have their own mitochondrial DNA. The DNA test can be performed on both sexes. This type of test may give you more accurate results because it includes female ancestry DNA. 
• Single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) testing. SNPs are the most common variations in DNA between people. SNP testing can be used to evaluate DNA from many variations across the complete set of genes. SNP testing may be more effective in providing you with details of your ethnic background compared to using Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA testing, which only looks at single ancestral lines.

Why Take a DNA Test?

There are many reasons why you may want to perform a DNA test. Some reasons include:

• To discover your ancestry. DNA tests may be used to trace your lineage up to ten generations back. The tests may also help you learn more about your ancestors' origins. When DNA test results are accurate, you can even find out if you have any living or recently deceased relatives.
• To establish paternity. The most common use of DNA tests is to solve paternal disputes. Children inherit genes from their biological parents. With a DNA paternity test, a child's DNA is compared to that of the alleged father. The paternity dispute would then be resolved if the alleged father's genes showed a 99.9% match.
• Forensic science. Like fingerprints, DNA is unique. At crime scenes, investigators will collect DNA samples such as hair, skin, ******, and blood. Forensic scientists will then analyze this DNA to help solve crimes.
• Medical research. Through DNA testing, doctors can confirm if you are prone to certain medical conditions. Several tests may be performed to see if you’re more likely to develop a certain genetic disorder. Your doctor can offer more accurate treatment options, once they’ve determined your genetic predisposition and risk of disease.

Factors That Increase DNA Ancestry Accuracy

DNA ancestry accuracy is determined by the amount of data the test center has accumulated. There is a wide range of DNA sequences. The more DNA sequences there are of individuals from your ethnic group and ancestral geographic range, the better the accuracy rate.

DNA ancestry accuracy is also determined by the degree of intermixture in your lineage. If you come from a heterogeneous background, you may find it more challenging to trace your roots. But if the testing companies have bulk DNA data from these lineages, you may get more accurate results.

Factors That May Affect the Accuracy of Your DNA Test Results

DNA tests may be inaccurate due to some of the reasons below:

• Companies compare their data from a database that may not produce definitive results. Most DNA testing companies use common genetic variations found in their database as the basis for testing DNA accuracy. Therefore, you may get different results if you use different companies. Some of the ethnicities from Africa, East Asia, South America, and South Asia may be hard to trace because DNA testing companies have limited DNA data in their databases to compare to.    
• DNA testing companies are selective when it comes to looking for certain genetic variations. These variations account for a small amount of the millions of SNP contained in your DNA. 
• Y chromosome DNA tests only look at your paternal line, so the results may be limited.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/accurate-dna-ancestry-tests

[hopi]

Absolutely... sounds interesting.  Many good schools send home a syllabus of the courses expectations and brief summary of what's presented. Parents read and sign it. 

People that are not in education have such narrow views on how to spark interest in students.

Matt Gates was invited to speak at a high school in Florida...... that's inappropriate

[gertrudecloset]

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@hopi wrote:

Absolutely... sounds interesting.  Many good schools send home a syllabus of the courses expectations and brief summary of what's presented. Parents read and sign it. 

People that are not in education have such narrow views on how to spark interest in students.

Matt Gates was invited to speak at a high school in Florida...... that's inappropriate

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What does politricks have to do with this subject matter @hopi ?

[hopi]

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

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@hopi wrote:

Absolutely... sounds interesting.  Many good schools send home a syllabus of the courses expectations and brief summary of what's presented. Parents read and sign it. 

People that are not in education have such narrow views on how to spark interest in students.

Matt Gates was invited to speak at a high school in Florida...... that's inappropriate

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What does politricks have to do with this subject matter @hopi ?

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@gertrudeclosetinappropriate subject matter the subject of the post for HS students. He is under investigation for allegedly s*x trafficking females minors for money.  Most females in HS are minors.  It's like inviting R Kelly to the HS for a concert.