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@Noel7 not all states are community property and money can be set aside in aliving trust by the husband. I lived through this scenario-horrible.

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@Snowpuppy wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

Knowing community property is a state thing, I looked it up and was shocked to see it isn't every state.

 

Ladies, this is what feminism is about.  Elect more women, lobby for community property.  Women may not have worked for a salary, but they worked supporting their husband and possibly taking care of his and her children.

 

Getting nothing in a divorce is unacceptable.


Community property means sharing assets accumulated during marriage. One is entitled to keep what they brought into the marriage.

 

That said, you and your kids can go hungry while waiting for your asset to be sold.

 

Community property doesn't keep the lights on nor your kids fed.



@Snowpuppy wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

Knowing community property is a state thing, I looked it up and was shocked to see it isn't every state.

 

Ladies, this is what feminism is about.  Elect more women, lobby for community property.  Women may not have worked for a salary, but they worked supporting their husband and possibly taking care of his and her children.

 

Getting nothing in a divorce is unacceptable.


Community property means sharing assets accumulated during marriage. One is entitled to keep what they brought into the marriage.

 

That said, you and your kids can go hungry while waiting for your asset to be sold.

 

Community property doesn't keep the lights on nor your kids fed.


AMEN, SISTA!

And I was divorced in California!

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@Bri36 wrote:

@SydneyH, a lot of women don't.  They don't think they need their own money, their own credit, and their own way to survive in case of death or divorce. 

 

It amazes me how many women turn over all the finances to their husband and have no idea what they have or what they owe. 

 

It can take weeks to get a lawyer and go to court to get something to live on.


@Noel- even in California!

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@Scooby Doo wrote:

Years ago I worked with a guy who did that to his wife.  After many years together he left her with nothing.  She went to work as a telelphone operator to be able to pay her rent.  Then he married someone else who divorced him.  I ran into him one day in the grocery store and he actually had the nerve to ask me out.  UMMMMM, No. 

Worked with another guy who I think was hard to live with.  He made sure his wife understood that he was the boss!  She told him she wanted a divorce, and he told her she could leave anytime but she wouldn't get anything out of him.  She also had no backup or means of support.  Well, she up and disappeared.  Nobody knew where she went.  In the Spring time he and his son were cleaning up the back yard from the winter.  Son found mom in a sleeping bag under some bushes.  She had committed suicide in October and lay in the snow for 6 months.

Some relationships just boggle my mind.

 

@  No one looked for her, alerted the police, nothing??? @Scooby Doo


 

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A stay at home mom in my a very plush neighborhood next to mine told her husband she didn't know now much more she could take - he went and filed for divorce and she was forced to leave her home.  It was very sad.   Her beautiful home was sold and the proceeds split so she did end up with a much smaller home.  Women need to protect themselves and if they are working they need their OWN bank account.  I don't believe in mingling funds with husband. 

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Takes 2 to make it;

Takes 2 to break it. 

 

I hear the same...'just out of the blue she/he wanted a divorce & took everything I owned!" Every. Single. Day.

 

Men divorcing women.

Women divorcing men.

It's a.l.w.a.y.s about the 'poor little woman'.

Men can be the victims, as well.

 

And no one 'had a clue' they were left with nothing.

It's such an old, old story.  

And always without a pre-nup (facepalm).

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@Noel7 wrote:

Knowing community property is a state thing, I looked it up and was shocked to see it isn't every state.

 

Ladies, this is what feminism is about.  Elect more women, lobby for community property.  Women may not have worked for a salary, but they worked supporting their husband and possibly taking care of his and her children.

 

Getting nothing in a divorce is unacceptable.


 

 

Community property laws are not always an answer.    Sometimes peope stay in bad marriages because they can't divide the property.    Laws are not always the answer, but common sense IS always the answer.    There was a time when a married woman could not legally have her own financial identity,   Now we can and we should.   There is nothing wrong with separate bank accounts.    A marriage is based on trust & truth not bank accounts.   

 

No matter how good or bad the spouse or marriage, a woman (and man) should always have their own financial security, even if modest.   

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@software Community property also means Community debt as well I think? So if you both owe $100,000 in cc bills or a loan they both must pay half of the debt in divorce too I believe? (he/she must be prepared to be saddled with 50,000 of debt)

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@sidsmom wrote:

Takes 2 to make it;

Takes 2 to break it. 

 

I hear the same...'just out of the blue she/he wanted a divorce & took everything I owned!" Every. Single. Day.

 

Men divorcing women.

Women divorcing men.

It's a.l.w.a.y.s about the 'poor little woman'.

Men can be the victims, as well.

 

And no one 'had a clue' they were left with nothing.

It's such an old, old story.  

And always without a pre-nup (facepalm).


I agree. I could relay many more sagas of men victims losing everything they own via a divorce instead of the other way around. 

 

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@Stormygirl wrote:

@software Community property also means Community debt as well I think? So if you both owe $100,000 in cc bills or a loan they both must pay half of the debt in divorce too I believe? (he/she must be prepared to be saddled with 50,000 of debt)


 

 

If you are correct, there's another reason why people choose to stay in a bad marriage.