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‎11-04-2014 02:34 PM
There are stipulations in place with the Death with Dignity law. Simply because one does not choose this for oneself does not mean others shouldn't be allowed to choose for themselves. One stipulation is that the person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within 6 months. An elderly person who just doesn't feel useful doesn't fit the criteria necessary.
‎11-04-2014 03:06 PM
On 11/4/2014 Sushismom said:
There are stipulations in place with the Death with Dignity law. Simply because one does not choose this for oneself does not mean others shouldn't be allowed to choose for themselves. One stipulation is that the person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within 6 months. An elderly person who just doesn't feel useful doesn't fit the criteria necessary.
In my opinion, it wouldn't be long before that elderly person fit the criteria. One thing would lead to another.
‎11-04-2014 03:11 PM
On 11/4/2014 JobGirl said:On 11/3/2014 cody said:On 11/3/2014 Autumn in NY said: Many of her quote bashers funded her bucket list vacations and she relied heavily on social media for donations and support. She was online right before she passed away leaving a message to all who were following the story. She and the organization that videotaped her used the internet to get her message out and they were reading the comments because she acknowledged the sceptical comments in her last YouTube video.If she was doing this for the money for "vacations" and attention...why didn't she hang around a few more years to enjoy it? The money and attention would have continued and she could have had a REALLY good time and THEN killed herself.
You honestly think this woman ended her life for the reasons you have stated here and that her family would have supported that? It is my understanding that the "money" was going to the organization. I might just send some money to that organization myself.
you're kidding right?
I see nothing to kid about on this subject. My reply was meant to be ridiculous in answer to the supposition that this woman was playing the public for her own benefit of vacations and money in her last days.
We are talking about a person's life and subsequent death. To reduce that to some kind of scam for personal gain is ridiculous, IMO.
‎11-04-2014 04:06 PM
On 11/4/2014 Sushismom said:There are stipulations in place with the Death with Dignity law. Simply because one does not choose this for oneself does not mean others shouldn't be allowed to choose for themselves. One stipulation is that the person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within 6 months. An elderly person who just doesn't feel useful doesn't fit the criteria necessary.
Correct. There are strict, complex stipulations in place as there should be. In addition, the decision and the final act are not simple or easy. I think those who would argue against each individual having the option believe it's an "easy way out." It's not. There will always be a few exceptions to anything, but we're talking about a careful, complicated, difficult, agonizing decision process which I wish all of us could view with compassion and not try to force our own personal choice on others. It already takes place quietly, behind closed doors in a sense, usually with increasing doses of morphine after long, torturous suffering -- but, for some reason, we don't talk about that and instead we fight against allowing people to have this choice for themselves and their loved ones.
‎11-04-2014 04:08 PM
On 11/4/2014 jubilant said:On 11/4/2014 Sushismom said:
There are stipulations in place with the Death with Dignity law. Simply because one does not choose this for oneself does not mean others shouldn't be allowed to choose for themselves. One stipulation is that the person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within 6 months. An elderly person who just doesn't feel useful doesn't fit the criteria necessary.
In my opinion, it wouldn't be long before that elderly person fit the criteria. One thing would lead to another.
Don't know why my response was poofed. But this type of argument doesn't hold water. Never has, never will.
‎11-04-2014 05:33 PM
On 11/4/2014 Sushismom said:On 11/4/2014 jubilant said:On 11/4/2014 Sushismom said:
There are stipulations in place with the Death with Dignity law. Simply because one does not choose this for oneself does not mean others shouldn't be allowed to choose for themselves. One stipulation is that the person has been diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within 6 months. An elderly person who just doesn't feel useful doesn't fit the criteria necessary.
In my opinion, it wouldn't be long before that elderly person fit the criteria. One thing would lead to another.
Don't know why my response was poofed. But this type of argument doesn't hold water. Never has, never will.
Well, to each his own. You have your opinion and I have mine. That's ok by me.
‎11-04-2014 06:11 PM
On 11/4/2014 cody said:On 11/4/2014 JobGirl said:On 11/3/2014 cody said:On 11/3/2014 Autumn in NY said: Many of her quote bashers funded her bucket list vacations and she relied heavily on social media for donations and support. She was online right before she passed away leaving a message to all who were following the story. She and the organization that videotaped her used the internet to get her message out and they were reading the comments because she acknowledged the sceptical comments in her last YouTube video.If she was doing this for the money for "vacations" and attention...why didn't she hang around a few more years to enjoy it? The money and attention would have continued and she could have had a REALLY good time and THEN killed herself.
You honestly think this woman ended her life for the reasons you have stated here and that her family would have supported that? It is my understanding that the "money" was going to the organization. I might just send some money to that organization myself.
you're kidding right?I see nothing to kid about on this subject. My reply was meant to be ridiculous in answer to the supposition that this woman was playing the public for her own benefit of vacations and money in her last days.
We are talking about a person's life and subsequent death. To reduce that to some kind of scam for personal gain is ridiculous, IMO.
I found nothing amusing I thought that statement considering the girl was rapidly deteriorating was absurd-clearly she didn't have that option so it made no sense for your argument -
‎11-04-2014 09:17 PM
JobGirl, in re-reading the above exchange between us I realize that my comments were hasty and unnecessarily curt. I apologize for that. My feeling, that some of the unkindness heaped on the young woman who ended her life, overwhelmed me. Still does. That is no excuse for me to be rude.
‎11-04-2014 09:59 PM
People suffering needlessly from cancer or another disease is wrong, when a couple pills can end it. If it happens to me I'm heading to Oregon.
‎11-04-2014 11:38 PM
On 11/3/2014 Jig Saw said:You have made many nasty comments on this subject. Maybe you should keep them to yourself.If she had kept her decision to herself she would not have had to worry about nasty comments. Everybody knows how social media is.
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