Re: Death Can Wait

Jig Saw · ‎09-03-2014

It is the coward's way out period.

Kalli · ‎03-11-2010

On 11/2/2014 Oostende said:
On 11/2/2014 adelle38 said:
On 11/2/2014 Jig Saw said:
On 11/2/2014 Oostende said:
I don't know but I just find this depressing and sad. I find nothing heroic or admirable in suicide. I wish this case hadn't received so much publicity because it seems to lessen the aversion to suicide, and I don't see how that can be a positive thing for society, unless we want more suicide.

At the end of the day, the young woman will be dead. Her loved ones will be heartbroken. I'm unconvinced that there is such a thing as a good way to die.

This doesn't mean I am against her having the choice. Suicide is a choice for all of us every single day. Human life is remarkably fragile. This case has taken on a celebrity aspect that troubles me.

Exactly. The whole thing should have been kept a private matter.

She made it public because she wants others to have a choice to end unbearable suffering wherever they may live.She's not a publicity seeker. She's trying to help others.

She is a publicity seeker. She made it public, ostensibly to help others, ergo she is a publicity seeker. That's why she made it public. I don't question her motives or her choice.

But this has taken on some aspects of a cause celebre and that is what troubles me.

By the way, suicide is not a new thing. It's as old as time. She is trying to change the way we think about suicide. Personally, I think it is wretched, sad, and heartbreaking. It is the end of hope. I can't see it as empowering or noble. It's just sad.

Yes, it's sad. I think many of us watched her interview with concern and that sense of "what would I do if I were in the same situation?"

The type of death she faces is horrible. The seizures will get worse and worse over time. Those awful seizures will start requiring a call for the ambulance and she'll be waking up in the hospital disoriented and wondering again what's going on and asking, did I have another seizure? How bad was it? And all the while she knows she's fighting a loosing battle. She no longer has control over her own body.

She'll have to be on morphine as time goes on due to the pain. The pain is so bad toward the end, SO BAD. Then hospice will be called and she'll linger, sedated, while her family holds vigil waiting for that last breath which could take days.

She knows this is the process. She chooses not to let it get to that point. Judge her all you want. The decision is hers, it's an awful one and if she feels some sense of peace because she's making her struggle public, so be it. If this has become a cause celebre it's probably because many of us fear this type of end and watching her deal with this, especially at such a young age when it seems her life hasn't fulfilled its potential, is something that the general public finds heart wrenching.

-Kalli

Oostende · ‎03-14-2010

Kalli, I have gone out of my way to avoid "judging" her. I have gone out of my way to point out the decision is hers. I have acknowledged the enormity of her situation.

It is the glorification of her choice that troubles me. That is all.

makeup addict · ‎03-29-2010

She did it.

cody2 · ‎03-19-2010

On 11/2/2014 Jig Saw said:
On 11/2/2014 Oostende said:
I don't know but I just find this depressing and sad. I find nothing heroic or admirable in suicide. I wish this case hadn't received so much publicity because it seems to lessen the aversion to suicide, and I don't see how that can be a positive thing for society, unless we want more suicide.

At the end of the day, the young woman will be dead. Her loved ones will be heartbroken. I'm unconvinced that there is such a thing as a good way to die.

This doesn't mean I am against her having the choice. Suicide is a choice for all of us every single day. Human life is remarkably fragile. This case has taken on a celebrity aspect that troubles me.

Exactly. The whole thing should have been kept a private matter.

I believe that it took courage to make it public, for the good of others. And now that I am thinking...aren't you the person that accused me of being another poster with multiple nics?

Seems we aren't going to agree on much. That is ok. We don't have to. My opinions are just that. JMO. We can both have them.

cody2 · ‎03-19-2010

On 11/2/2014 Jig Saw said:
It is the coward's way out period.

If it was YOUR child that made this same choice...would you tell her she was a coward?

colliegirls · ‎05-13-2012

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/basketball-player-dying-of-cancer-sinks-layup-in-ins...

This beautiful student has already lived longer with her brain tumor than predicted and she is appreciating each day she has. I had hoped the same for Brittany. Both are courageous in different ways, both are so tragic that any young person has to die.

goodstuff · ‎03-09-2010

Some very unsettling posts on this thread. No one should be "comfortable" with the idea of suicide, whatever the circumstances. A decision to end one's own life is awe-ful in the deepest possible sense. To label someone who is facing death and experiencing physical and emotional suffering as a "coward" or "attention-seeker" is neither compassionate nor human.

Jig Saw · ‎09-03-2014

On 11/2/2014 cody said:
On 11/2/2014 Jig Saw said:
It is the coward's way out period.

If it was YOUR child that made this same choice...would you tell her she was a coward?

I sure would and I have.

JobGirl · ‎12-30-2010

On 11/1/2014 BRANDONLEE said:
On 10/31/2014 RickyRocky said:
Life is a gift from GOD and it is NOT her life to take. I love how some of you all say that you support her in taking her own life and then in the next sentence you say things like, God be with her and God bless her. If you all truly believed in God, you would know that it is a mortal sin to take ones own life. God is the only one that has the power to take life away.

A gift from god!!!!!O.k give her life and then take it away in 27 yrs. after recently getting married and starting her life.Thanks for the gift god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing those 29 yrs are considered a gift to her mother -and to all the people whose lives she touched along the way-everyone's idea of gift from God may not be yours-