Cop-hater shooting in Philly - Page 4

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@SahmIam wrote:
@tansy and @Noel7 I'm truly don't want to get into a pissing contest about this because I believe we are all on the same side regarding helping women and children. I think the issue at hand is the verbiage "shaming".

I don't think many don't believe that one should be held accountable for their actions and if they are embarrassed by it, there it is. It's another for others who are innocent to held accountable for what someone else has done and then punished for it.

"Honor Killings" is an entirely different situation and mind set. How the word "shame" is used to justify these despicable acts is proof that a simple word that was once looked upon as "causing one to feel embarrassed by ones actions and how others will look at them for those actions" has become an excuse for some religions to vilify and kill women.

I just don't agree with putting both outlooks in the same category.

ETA: I apologize to the OP for taking this off the path of the topic of your thread.

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@SahmIam

I don't see it as a contest, I respect you and your thinking. I had assumed it was a misunderstanding.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@sidsmom wrote:
The FBI identifies a Hate Crime to be:

"A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.”

The shooter didn't appear to target any particular group nor profession.

Hello @sidsmom,

Looks to me like the FBI needs an update to their definition of what/who, constitutes committing a hate crime. It is pretty obvious, from what I have heard, that the perpetrator left in a written note. Not sure that is a fact, just what I have heard.

If he said he hates the Police, seems to me that should be enough to meet the criteria of "hate of a group", regardless of gender/race/ethnicity and orientation. If it ain't? Time to update the legal definitions to represent the present era of time.

hckynut(john)

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@itiswhatitis wrote:
Murder is murder as far as I'm concerned. Doesn't matter whose doing the killing. America's gun culture is off the chains.

@itiswhatitis

Ah! I see. It's the gun's fault. Got'cha.

hckynut(john)

qualitygal · ‎10-04-2010

It sickens me. Another human, hurting another human. When's it going to stop!! It's gone on forever and appears it will, till the end of time.

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@itiswhatitis wrote:
Murder is murder as far as I'm concerned. Doesn't matter whose doing the killing. America's gun culture is off the chains.

I agree 110%.

Dead is dead and all violent deaths are despicable.

Guns make it far easier to act out on hateful impulses, whether towards others (murder) or towards yourself (suicide).

Puzzle Piece · ‎06-29-2010

@qualitygal wrote:
It sickens me. Another human, hurting another human. When's it going to stop!! It's gone on forever and appears it will, till the end of time.

Since Cave Man days. Humans hurting another. It's the way of our species. Many animals do the same.

Never Forget the Native American Indian Holocaust

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@terrier3 wrote:

I agree 110%.
Dead is dead and all violent deaths are despicable.
Guns make it far easier to act out on hateful impulses, whether towards others (murder) or towards yourself (suicide).

So does a meat cleaver/pressure cooker/motor vehicles, and the list goes on and on and! It ain't the object, it's the inhuman perpetrators. They are obviously lacking many human qualities, some love for and from themselves.

hckynut(john)

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

@hckynut wrote:
@terrier3 wrote:

I agree 110%.
Dead is dead and all violent deaths are despicable.
Guns make it far easier to act out on hateful impulses, whether towards others (murder) or towards yourself (suicide).

So does a meat cleaver/pressure cooker/motor vehicles, and the list goes on and on and! It ain't the object, it's the inhuman perpetrators. They are obviously lacking many human qualities, some love for and from themselves.

That's true. And technically it's not the gun, but the bullet.

(that's why I suggest the price point for bullets should

be something like $500/each)

But I see @terrier3 viewpoint, as well.

Meat cleaver? My mom used it to cut twine.

Pressure cooker? I make soup with mine.

Motor vehicles? Today, little grandmas are driving to church with it.

Guns? Well...unless you're scratching your head (or something else!) with it, there's only one purpose of a loaded gun. One could say "I'm using it for target practice only', but the intent of practice is...perfecting your aim. No one ever goes to target practice to perfect a shoot-in-the-arm aim.

The intent of a gun is different than any other methods of killing.

Beth-QVC · ‎06-14-2015

Moved:

This post has been removed by QVC because it is off topic and political

Maudelyn · ‎09-08-2016

@sidsmom wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@terrier3 wrote:

I agree 110%.
Dead is dead and all violent deaths are despicable.
Guns make it far easier to act out on hateful impulses, whether towards others (murder) or towards yourself (suicide).

So does a meat cleaver/pressure cooker/motor vehicles, and the list goes on and on and! It ain't the object, it's the inhuman perpetrators. They are obviously lacking many human qualities, some love for and from themselves.
That's true. And technically it's not the gun, but the bullet.
(that's why I suggest the price point for bullets should
be something like $500/each)
But I see @terrier3 viewpoint, as well.

Meat cleaver? My mom used it to cut twine.
Pressure cooker? I make soup with mine.
Motor vehicles? Today, little grandmas are driving to church with it.

Guns? Well...unless you're scratching your head (or something else!) with it, there's only one purpose of a loaded gun. One could say "I'm using it for target practice only', but the intent of practice is...perfecting your aim. No one ever goes to target practice to perfect a shoot-in-the-arm aim.

The intent of a gun is different than any other methods of killing.