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[MomOf4]

On 7/18/2014 terrier3 said:

On 7/18/2014 MomOf4 said:

On 7/18/2014 terrier3 said:

They propose the same thing in NY. Upstate wants to separate from the NYC area.

They actually wanted Crazy Carl Paladino to be the new leader (and put it on a petition that was going no where fast).

The yokels up here forget that the money is downstate...THEY subsidize us!

They are all furious about the SAFE Act...some guys on the radio actually want an armed rebellion like the Founding Fathers.

Wow Terrier, that really is off the deep end. Can't imagine anyone would think that would fly either here or there!!

I posted about the nutty guy on the radio before. On the day before the 4th of July, he talked about armed rebellion being the only way to go and suggested everybody get prepared "locked and loaded".

He is the guy who was put in a mental hospital for observation because he thought that the guv had him followed...and had agents dressed as trees in his backyard taping his every movement. He was carrying a gun and walking in the snow barefoot when they took him away in an ambulance.

Now he's back...and nuttier than ever.

OMG I must have missed your post. If anyone needed to be committed, it was that guy. I wonder how many more like him out there. A bunch I bet!!

[MickD]

Ridiculous...but let the people speak....

[madzonie]

As a former California resident (lived in SF Bay Area 40+ years) I think the idea is nuts.

We have friends in the Redding CA area who are pushing for the creation of a new state called Jefferson. Their wants include less federal govt/more local, less taxes, more "freedoms," more private property rights (?), and so on. They are including the very southern end of Oregon as well. I don't know how they figure they'll keep their infrastructure intact with less federal and state funds and fewer taxes being paid by residents.

[scotttie]

I can see how frustration with the way things are going there could cause this to come up.

[madzonie]

On 7/18/2014 ennui1 said:

On 7/18/2014 happy housewife said:

What would be the reason for doing so? What would it solve? I think the federal government would have to vote on this as it would make a huge difference in congress and the senate to have 5 more states.

Ooohhh, when I think about this, I kind of like it. California would have 12 senators, instead of the two idiots we have now.

The guy has a point; CA is huge and diverse, and one state government struggles to serve all those needs. If you look at the proposed map, Jefferson and South CA have absolutely nothing in common, and could easily be separate.

Not so. If there were 6 states, there would still only be 2 from CALIFORNIA - the other states would not be "California" and would have their own senators.

[MikafromTopeka]

On 7/18/2014 madzonie said:

As a former California resident (lived in SF Bay Area 40+ years) I think the idea is nuts.

We have friends in the Redding CA area who are pushing for the creation of a new state called Jefferson. Their wants include less federal govt/more local, less taxes, more "freedoms," more private property rights (?), and so on. They are including the very southern end of Oregon as well. I don't know how they figure they'll keep their infrastructure intact with less federal and state funds and fewer taxes being paid by residents.

That's the area that I am from as well and I agree with you. I suppose they think they can start charging for the water in Lake Oroville? Of which there isn't much at the moment. They are all lunatics and one of the only reasons I'm NOT looking forward to moving back.

[ennui1]

On 7/18/2014 madzonie said:

On 7/18/2014 ennui1 said:

On 7/18/2014 happy housewife said:

What would be the reason for doing so? What would it solve? I think the federal government would have to vote on this as it would make a huge difference in congress and the senate to have 5 more states.

Ooohhh, when I think about this, I kind of like it. California would have 12 senators, instead of the two idiots we have now.

The guy has a point; CA is huge and diverse, and one state government struggles to serve all those needs. If you look at the proposed map, Jefferson and South CA have absolutely nothing in common, and could easily be separate.

Not so. If there were 6 states, there would still only be 2 from CALIFORNIA - the other states would not be "California" and would have their own senators.

And each of those six states would still have a Californian identity and heritage. We could be a voting block.

[Clover29]

On 7/18/2014 madzonie said:

On 7/18/2014 ennui1 said:

On 7/18/2014 happy housewife said:

What would be the reason for doing so? What would it solve? I think the federal government would have to vote on this as it would make a huge difference in congress and the senate to have 5 more states.

Ooohhh, when I think about this, I kind of like it. California would have 12 senators, instead of the two idiots we have now.

The guy has a point; CA is huge and diverse, and one state government struggles to serve all those needs. If you look at the proposed map, Jefferson and South CA have absolutely nothing in common, and could easily be separate.

Not so. If there were 6 states, there would still only be 2 from CALIFORNIA - the other states would not be "California" and would have their own senators.

Hair splitting. There would still be ten extra Senators, which is the point. And that's never going to happen.

I read somewhere that the gerrymandering is in the zigzaggy lines that make up the six "states". If they just drew straight lines, the demographic would come out very different.

[MickD]

ennui ~ two idiots....hahahaha!

[NoelSeven]

The money and the power is in several specific areas of CA. The malcontents in more rural areas would have to learn a hard lesson when it finally sunk in that they'd have to support themselves rather than getting CA state taxes for their projects as they do now.