Community Chat

[on the bay]

Anyone who spends time disputing the number of deaths or claims it is to make money with false reports must not have had anyone they loved die from the virus. If they did, I can't believe they would spread insignificant thoughts regarding this.

[Lali1]

---

@on the bay wrote:

Anyone who spends time disputing the number of deaths or claims it is to make money with false reports must not have had anyone they loved die from the virus. If they did, I can't believe they would spread insignificant thoughts regarding this.

---

I believe if I did have someone die of covid I would have lots of questions. I'm sorry when anyone loses someone they love or care about.  I still say questions are a good thing. Everyone is entitled to ask question on this sublject. Especially when people have lost their businesses, jobs and loved ones from Covid and mental health issues related to Covid. Lots of misery due to many things related to Covid. People don't have to have lost someone due to having the virus to have lost a lot. Some parents have lost their children due to depression. I bet they have lots and lots of questions. 

[Cakers3]

---

@Meowingkitty wrote:

Someone was telling me that 5 of his firefighter friends and him went in to get a Covid test. They waited and waited until they couldn't wait. They had to go back to work so they never got the test. A few days later they got results that they were all positive. 

---

@Meowingkitty  ????  If they never had the test then how did they get results that they were all positive?

Or did they have a second test later on???

Please explain.

[Drythe]

@on the bay 

I am sad to learn of your losses.  Losing loved ones without being able to say good bye, or gather together to celebrate their lives is doubly painful.  I’m sending you wishes for Peace.

Thank you very much for your thoughtfulness.   I chose not to mention my family until this week because so many were dealing with so much more.  Three of them were seniors, older, but still living independent, full lives, and much loved by us.  Two of them were cousins, one 47, and one 51 neither had underlying conditions.

Really, I am blessed as my 94 year old Dad, although frail, is still with us, and has gotten both of his vaccines.  That is such a relief. 

I agree that it is a loss to our nation, which will be a pain many of us will bear for a long time.

~Be Well - Be Safe~

[michellegirl]

I agree with you, @eadu4 . It is all about being able to perform a Personal Risk Assessment for you and your family. In order to do that effectively, we need stats that we can rely on...which, unfortunately, has proven to be a significant challenge.

Thank you for raising the point that each one of us has a different level of risk associated with this pandemic. It is very personal to each of us and is attributed to various unique factors. Hopefully, we can all recognize this and live a happy and safe life and allow our neighbors to do the same.

[CrazyDaisy]

---

@pitdakota wrote:

---

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

Anyone who believes that the covid numbers are correct simply have to follow the money.  The Federal Govt is reimbursing hospital, doctors etc for costs related to covid treatments, no questions asked.  We all know that there is no fraud when free money is involved.

---

____________________________________________________

@CrazyDaisy  And that money doesn't even begin to cover the expense of the hospital for treating those covid patients.   

The cost of the staff since those patients take a higher nurse ratio than other patients, the fact that there is a nursing shortage & hospitals are having to pay travel nurses $80.00/hr to work covid units or covid ICUs, the increased cost of equipment used on patients with high flow oxygen.

Heck, they even quadruple the IV tubing on many of the patients so they can leave the IV pump outside a closed door and not have to enter the room multiple times to hang meds every 30 minutes, thereby not exposing nursing staff having to enter the room when they have other options.  Even if those options do expotentially increase the cost to care for the patient. 

Yeah, they are really raking in the bucks!  LOL!

ETA:  Oh and let's not forget the expense of the hospitals purchasing

I-pads or other tablets so that nurses can let family members see their loved one via video link.  Yeah, those tablets are really cheap. 

---

These Covid relief programs are very generous and very loosely monitored....follow the money.

[Drythe]

@pitdakota 

What you and your friends and family have experienced related to this Pandemic would have to be experienced to be believed.  I hope those who are struggling have total success. 

Many of our friends, and family also work in Health Care, my closest friend is an ED doc.  I was holding my breath every day until he retired at the end of the summer.  One of my cousins who died was 51, he was an MRN, who flew Air Evacuation with the Air Force.  He had just passed his physical, and had no medical conditions.  COVID gives no quarter.

Best Wishes as you continue to fight the good fight.

[Drythe]

@CrazyDaisy 

Yes, Big Companies, and the top 2% really profited from them last year.  Having followed it, we know who did very well. 

Denial is not just a river river in Egypt.

---

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

---

@pitdakota wrote:

---

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

Anyone who believes that the covid numbers are correct simply have to follow the money.  The Federal Govt is reimbursing hospital, doctors etc for costs related to covid treatments, no questions asked.  We all know that there is no fraud when free money is involved.

---

____________________________________________________

@CrazyDaisy  And that money doesn't even begin to cover the expense of the hospital for treating those covid patients.   

The cost of the staff since those patients take a higher nurse ratio than other patients, the fact that there is a nursing shortage & hospitals are having to pay travel nurses $80.00/hr to work covid units or covid ICUs, the increased cost of equipment used on patients with high flow oxygen.

Heck, they even quadruple the IV tubing on many of the patients so they can leave the IV pump outside a closed door and not have to enter the room multiple times to hang meds every 30 minutes, thereby not exposing nursing staff having to enter the room when they have other options.  Even if those options do expotentially increase the cost to care for the patient. 

Yeah, they are really raking in the bucks!  LOL!

ETA:  Oh and let's not forget the expense of the hospitals purchasing

I-pads or other tablets so that nurses can let family members see their loved one via video link.  Yeah, those tablets are really cheap. 

---

These Covid relief programs are very generous and very loosely monitored....follow the money.

---

[michellegirl]

Pretty sure this is possible. I took my Dad to the ER for a fall last summer. After a ton of tests and JUST as we were leaving, a nurse came in with a Covid test. We refused it for obvious reasons. I asked the nurse to make sure that this refused Covid test that my Dad did not take was REMOVED from his record since he did NOT take it. She ensured me that it was removed. Well, guess what...no doctors would see him going forward because his records indicated, "Covid-Test pending." He never had the Covid test. So, yes, these odd scenarios ARE possible.