Bruce Jenner - Page 23

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
I think depression can cause a chemical imbalances. Depression, Stress, worry can cause all kinds of health problems.

But I don't think it started with a chemical imbalance. Chemical imbalance is symptom not a cause.

You versus a couple of hundred years of science, which includes blood testing and medical research.

And yet, you "think" they are wrong.

You know, many of us have faith, but we also know that all throughout time man attributed everything he didn't understand to gods and goddesses. You are doing the same thing.

A Thrill Of Hope The Weary World Rejoices

TaxyLady · ‎05-26-2011

On 2/5/2015 terrier3 said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

Faith doesn't conquer all.

If that is what you believe than you are right. It will not conquer all.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 terrier3 said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

Faith doesn't conquer all.

If that is what you believe than you are right. It will not conquer all.

It's not about belief, it's about facts, evidence and research.

A Thrill Of Hope The Weary World Rejoices

dooBdoo · ‎06-27-2010

On 2/5/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 terrier3 said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

Faith doesn't conquer all.

If that is what you believe than you are right. It will not conquer all.

It's not about belief, it's about facts, evidence and research.

I agree with you, Noel and terrier. I'm a person of faith but I'm also a person of science. It's a complex issue, but more and more the research tells us this is the way people are born and it's something innate to them. I've been learning more about the "two spirit" people in the Native American communities. I find their acceptance and understanding to be admirable, non-judgmental, and I think it's evidence of love for one another the way our Creator made us. I hope and pray for the day all people will have the same acceptance and love toward our fellow human beings.

Few things reveal your intellect and your generosity of spirit—the parallel powers of your heart and mind—better than how you give feedback.~Maria Popova

bikerbabe · ‎03-09-2010

On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 2/5/2015 Cattitude said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
Depression is caused by putting all your faith, trust and focus on yourself instead of putting your faith, trust and focus on Jesus. You will always fail, but God never fails.

Clearly you don't understand that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance.

Maybe and maybe not. The "chemical imbalance" view started in the 80's based on an idea that stemmed from Parkinson's studies. It became a mantra that the public has never let go of. Today researchers have gone beyond that and are much more involved in seeking a genetic causation. But I agree that simply having faith will not help everyone with clinical depression.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/23/145525853/when-it-comes-to-depression-serotonin-isnt-the-...

I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

You give faith a bad name. My DH has PTSD from Vietnam. 40 years. He became a chaplain and devoted his life to helping other veterans from the path to suicide. His thorn has not been taken from him just like Paul's thorn was not taken from him. The Lord has helped him use his suffering for good. The Lord does not heal everyone from suffering and to claim that a lack of healing is from lack of faith is WRONG. I won't be back to this thread. I'm too angry.

TaxyLady · ‎05-26-2011

On 2/5/2015 bikerbabe said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 2/5/2015 Cattitude said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
Depression is caused by putting all your faith, trust and focus on yourself instead of putting your faith, trust and focus on Jesus. You will always fail, but God never fails.

Clearly you don't understand that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance.

Maybe and maybe not. The "chemical imbalance" view started in the 80's based on an idea that stemmed from Parkinson's studies. It became a mantra that the public has never let go of. Today researchers have gone beyond that and are much more involved in seeking a genetic causation. But I agree that simply having faith will not help everyone with clinical depression.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/23/145525853/when-it-comes-to-depression-serotonin-isnt-the...

I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

You give faith a bad name. My DH has PTSD from Vietnam. 40 years. He became a chaplain and devoted his life to helping other veterans from the path to suicide. His thorn has not been taken from him just like Paul's thorn was not taken from him. The Lord has helped him use his suffering for good. The Lord does not heal everyone from suffering and to claim that a lack of healing is from lack of faith is WRONG. I won't be back to this thread. I'm too angry.

Sorry you won't be back. Paul's thorn in the flesh was not an illness. It was a messenger from satan. If you read about it in scripture, you will understand it was persecution that Paul suffered. We all suffer persecution for the sake of Christ and His grace is enough to see us through it. The Lord does heal everyone who believes. The Lord does not put illness on anyone nor does he consider it good. But, the Lord can work anything for good for those who love Him and called according to His purpose. Jesus healed everyone when He was on earth. The only ones he could not heal were those who did not believe. He has given us that power through His Holy Spirit who lives in us.

Catitude · ‎01-09-2014

On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 bikerbabe said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 2/5/2015 Cattitude said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
Depression is caused by putting all your faith, trust and focus on yourself instead of putting your faith, trust and focus on Jesus. You will always fail, but God never fails.

Clearly you don't understand that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance.

Maybe and maybe not. The "chemical imbalance" view started in the 80's based on an idea that stemmed from Parkinson's studies. It became a mantra that the public has never let go of. Today researchers have gone beyond that and are much more involved in seeking a genetic causation. But I agree that simply having faith will not help everyone with clinical depression.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/23/145525853/when-it-comes-to-depression-serotonin-isnt-the-...

I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

You give faith a bad name. My DH has PTSD from Vietnam. 40 years. He became a chaplain and devoted his life to helping other veterans from the path to suicide. His thorn has not been taken from him just like Paul's thorn was not taken from him. The Lord has helped him use his suffering for good. The Lord does not heal everyone from suffering and to claim that a lack of healing is from lack of faith is WRONG. I won't be back to this thread. I'm too angry.

Sorry you won't be back. Paul's thorn in the flesh was not an illness. It was a messenger from satan. If you read about it in scripture, you will understand it was persecution that Paul suffered. We all suffer persecution for the sake of Christ and His grace is enough to see us through it. The Lord does heal everyone who believes. The Lord does not put illness on anyone nor does he consider it good. But, the Lord can work anything for good for those who love Him and called according to His purpose. Jesus healed everyone when He was on earth. The only ones he could not heal were those who did not believe. He has given us that power through His Holy Spirit who lives in us.

You are completely healthy, never sick, no ailments?

TaxyLady · ‎05-26-2011

On 2/5/2015 Cattitude said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 bikerbabe said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 2/5/2015 Cattitude said:
On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
Depression is caused by putting all your faith, trust and focus on yourself instead of putting your faith, trust and focus on Jesus. You will always fail, but God never fails.

Clearly you don't understand that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance.

Maybe and maybe not. The "chemical imbalance" view started in the 80's based on an idea that stemmed from Parkinson's studies. It became a mantra that the public has never let go of. Today researchers have gone beyond that and are much more involved in seeking a genetic causation. But I agree that simply having faith will not help everyone with clinical depression.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/23/145525853/when-it-comes-to-depression-serotonin-isnt-the...

I think it depends on who/what you are putting your faith in. If one truly believed and doesn't doubt that their depression is being healed. It will be healed. But so many of us have half belief, half faith and half trust. This is not unusual because the world looks at things in the physical realm, but people with true faith in Jesus and his promises look at the spiritual realm. They walk by faith, not by sight.

You give faith a bad name. My DH has PTSD from Vietnam. 40 years. He became a chaplain and devoted his life to helping other veterans from the path to suicide. His thorn has not been taken from him just like Paul's thorn was not taken from him. The Lord has helped him use his suffering for good. The Lord does not heal everyone from suffering and to claim that a lack of healing is from lack of faith is WRONG. I won't be back to this thread. I'm too angry.

Sorry you won't be back. Paul's thorn in the flesh was not an illness. It was a messenger from satan. If you read about it in scripture, you will understand it was persecution that Paul suffered. We all suffer persecution for the sake of Christ and His grace is enough to see us through it. The Lord does heal everyone who believes. The Lord does not put illness on anyone nor does he consider it good. But, the Lord can work anything for good for those who love Him and called according to His purpose. Jesus healed everyone when He was on earth. The only ones he could not heal were those who did not believe. He has given us that power through His Holy Spirit who lives in us.

You are completely healthy, never sick, no ailments?

I am not always healthy. I get ailments from time to time. Usually when I let my guard down. No different than anyone else. . Sickness is part of this fallen world. But, I know the great Physician and I walk in divine health. So any attack will not last long and hasn't.

Nuttmeg · ‎03-09-2010

Why would Bruce decide this now? Most people deal with this at a younger age.

Catitude · ‎01-09-2014

On 2/5/2015 TaxyLady said:
On 2/5/2015 nutmeg3 said:
Why would Bruce decide this now? Most people deal with this at a younger age.

Yeah. But people would like to think it is a chemical imbalance rather than just crazy behavior.

TL, the comments about depression and a chemical imbalance were concerning Rob Kardashian, not Bruce Jenner.

Bruce Jenner's issues are separate.