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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:

The issue is not whether he was or was not confused about his gender attraction.

The issue is that she went from gay or possibly gay as being a woman hater. There is no connection there. We read about men who hate women in the papers and online all the time. Every day, it seems. They haven't been gay men.

She spoke before she had the facts, almost like doing an autopsy without the body.

Ignorant. Wrong. Insulting.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 sidsmom said:

I don't know who Robi Ludwig is, but when I heard about this shooting & watched the YouTube video...about how much he hated women....that's the first thing I thought of. All that hatred sends up a lot of red flags.

Gay men do NOT hate women.


But SOMETIMES they hate themselves. I imagine that's what the psychologist was trying to say.

And sometimes heterosexual men hate themselves as well. Bringing up gay stereotyping is why she got fired. Her comments were ignorant and an insult to the gay community.


I fail to see how it is gay stereotyping.

Gay people can be just as nuts as heterosexual people.

Because she went from woman hater to gay. There is no logical connection.


From what I read, I didn't see the interview, it sounds like she was posing various possibilities. TV psychologists do that sort of thing all the time.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 MickD said:

Sydney ~ Some people can have a deep hatred for who they are sxually....this guy was so psychologically impaired....who knows.....like a child... a person takes their stuff out on others....


Well said MickD.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:

The issue is not whether he was or was not confused about his gender attraction.

The issue is that she went from gay or possibly gay as being a woman hater. There is no connection there. We read about men who hate women in the papers and online all the time. Every day, it seems. They haven't been gay men.


You are missing the point. Self hate.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:

The issue is not whether he was or was not confused about his gender attraction.

The issue is that she went from gay or possibly gay as being a woman hater. There is no connection there. We read about men who hate women in the papers and online all the time. Every day, it seems. They haven't been gay men.


You are missing the point. Self hate.

I didn't miss that point at all.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 sidsmom said:

I don't know who Robi Ludwig is, but when I heard about this shooting & watched the YouTube video...about how much he hated women....that's the first thing I thought of. All that hatred sends up a lot of red flags.

Gay men do NOT hate women.


But SOMETIMES they hate themselves. I imagine that's what the psychologist was trying to say.

And sometimes heterosexual men hate themselves as well. Bringing up gay stereotyping is why she got fired. Her comments were ignorant and an insult to the gay community.


I fail to see how it is gay stereotyping.

Gay people can be just as nuts as heterosexual people.

Because she went from woman hater to gay. There is no logical connection.


From what I read, I didn't see the interview, it sounds like she was posing various possibilities. TV psychologists do that sort of thing all the time.

That's how I took it too, scottie. And I saw the interview.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

The interview did not reflect the facts and was done without listening to or reading a transcript of his ""manifesto"" or seeing his videos.

Very unprofessional and uncalled for comments.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 sidsmom said:

I don't know who Robi Ludwig is, but when I heard about this shooting & watched the YouTube video...about how much he hated women....that's the first thing I thought of. All that hatred sends up a lot of red flags.

Gay men do NOT hate women.


But SOMETIMES they hate themselves. I imagine that's what the psychologist was trying to say.

And sometimes heterosexual men hate themselves as well. Bringing up gay stereotyping is why she got fired. Her comments were ignorant and an insult to the gay community.


I fail to see how it is gay stereotyping.

Gay people can be just as nuts as heterosexual people.

Because she went from woman hater to gay. There is no logical connection.


From what I read, I didn't see the interview, it sounds like she was posing various possibilities. TV psychologists do that sort of thing all the time.

That's how I took it too, scottie. And I saw the interview.


Yup. I just found it on youtube. Why people are trying to turn this into gay bashing is beyond me.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 sidsmom said:

I don't know who Robi Ludwig is, but when I heard about this shooting & watched the YouTube video...about how much he hated women....that's the first thing I thought of. All that hatred sends up a lot of red flags.

Gay men do NOT hate women.


But SOMETIMES they hate themselves. I imagine that's what the psychologist was trying to say.

And sometimes heterosexual men hate themselves as well. Bringing up gay stereotyping is why she got fired. Her comments were ignorant and an insult to the gay community.


I fail to see how it is gay stereotyping.

Gay people can be just as nuts as heterosexual people.

Because she went from woman hater to gay. There is no logical connection.


From what I read, I didn't see the interview, it sounds like she was posing various possibilities. TV psychologists do that sort of thing all the time.

That's how I took it too, scottie. And I saw the interview.


Yup. I just found it on youtube. Why people are trying to turn this into gay bashing is beyond me.

Me too. Sometimes I think people go overboard in the taking offense department just to prove how unbiased they are......? That's all I can figure on this one.

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Re: Anyone hear that Robi Ludwig

On 5/29/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 scotttie said:
On 5/29/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 5/29/2014 sidsmom said:

I don't know who Robi Ludwig is, but when I heard about this shooting & watched the YouTube video...about how much he hated women....that's the first thing I thought of. All that hatred sends up a lot of red flags.

Gay men do NOT hate women.


But SOMETIMES they hate themselves. I imagine that's what the psychologist was trying to say.

And sometimes heterosexual men hate themselves as well. Bringing up gay stereotyping is why she got fired. Her comments were ignorant and an insult to the gay community.


I fail to see how it is gay stereotyping.

Gay people can be just as nuts as heterosexual people.

Because she went from woman hater to gay. There is no logical connection.


From what I read, I didn't see the interview, it sounds like she was posing various possibilities. TV psychologists do that sort of thing all the time.

That's how I took it too, scottie. And I saw the interview.


Yup. I just found it on youtube. Why people are trying to turn this into gay bashing is beyond me.

Me too. Sometimes I think people go overboard in the taking offense department just to prove how unbiased they are......? That's all I can figure on this one.


Well, as I am fond of saying..."when you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

This young man's lack of connection with people his age socially/sexually was apparently at the core of this disaster. Suppressed homosexuality is as plausible a theory as any.

That's all she was doing posing possibilities since nobody can know.