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Re: Anyone Ever Have a Lower Back Epidural Steroid Injection?

On 4/21/2014 Lotus~ said:

betteb......I love your sig line.

Thanks Lotus

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Re: Anyone Ever Have a Lower Back Epidural Steroid Injection?

Several at Pain Mgmt. clinic. For degenerative disc disease, and rheumatoid arthritis. The first one helped, the second helped less, and each one after were even less. Stopped them on my own. Never had any side effects. (I also take oral prednisone)

As for the procedure, I was never offered sedation, nor did I need it. I never felt any pain, or sting, or anything other than a bit of pressure. Really, no big deal. They use guided imagery so it's very safe.

I wish it had helped as I often use a walker, or a cane now. Best of luck to you, OP.

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On 4/21/2014 sophiamarie said:


Maybe if you took a pill or two, you might be able to identify that thing that sits on top of your shoulders......{#emotions_dlg.lol}

BTW - there's "pain" and then there's "PAIN"....

Not quite sure what your first sentence means but I won't take it as complimentary.

"pain" and then there's "PAIN"

Not quite sure of your inference in your second sentence either, but same as the first sentence, I will presume it to mean I don't know the difference in pain threshold levels in humans. Anyone that has suffered through sciatica with ruptured L-5/S-1 spinal discs I am sure understands pain thresholds, so you can at least mark me down for that one, no?

I did not say I "do not take pills", what I did say was I do not and will not take any type of pain pills other than a Acetaminophen pill. Some thin the blood and some have been proven to damage the heart, which mine as been twice damaged already.

Most the others are of an Opiate derivative and ain't no way I am touching any of those things. And that is regardless of your definition of "pain and then there is PAIN."

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On 4/21/2014 birddrops said:

Excuse me John, I will assure you that my doctor knows exactly what he is doing. He is an anesthesiologist and is rated one of the top doctors in the United States. My procedures are done under flouroscope and the medication is injected straight into the nerve on either side of the spine.

Perhaps I was exaggerating with the "legs flying off the table" remark. When the needle goes into the nerve my leg jerks up. It can be somewhat uncomfortable and since he does it twice he prefers me to be lightly sedated since I have reached for my back one or two times and as you know it is a sterile field and he does not want my hand back there.

That was a very rude remark regarding my comment and my doctor and I shouldn't have to be writing this now. Say what you want about me but leave my doctor out of it.

I don't remember saying your doctor did not know what he was doing. This is what I did say and I quote:

"I have had numerous injections in many parts of my body including my lower spine/upper spine/shoulder and elbow, and they were all done by doctors that "did not hit a nerve" because they knew what they were doing."

You choose to interpret that any way you please. Now I had a complete removal of my ruptured L-3 via local anesthesia and this procedure involved removing the ruptured disc particles piece by piece via syringe injection. Now obviously the particles were not in the same location of my spinal canal so this required my doctor friend to insert/remove/insert/remove many times over that 2 hour procedure to make sure he got all of the remnants of the materials dispelled when the disc ruptured.

I laid on my stomach and watched all of this on a monitor as it was all done with a camera type of syringe. My doctors said these particles are mostly fluid and just infecting them eliminated them. Not the most comfortable thing in the world, but just lying on my stomach for 2 hours while nothing was being done would not be comfortable for me.

Why so concerned about your doctor since I haven't a clue who he is nor would I want to know. I however can give you the name of my friend the Spinal Surgeon any time you wish. Now I've said here many times my nephew is an Anesthesiologist and presently owns 5 Pain Clinics and he too is considered one of the top in his field in 2 states and also his clinic in South Korea. He however would not touch my back problem either via Caudal(Epidural)or any other of his practices. I can give you his name also any time you wish.

I wouldn't even care if you gave your opinion on either of my doctors mentioned above as it has nothing to do with me other than me being a patient. Don't quite get the:

"That was a very rude remark regarding my comment and my doctor and I shouldn't have to be writing this now. Say what you want about me but leave my doctor out of it."

Oh well, to each be their own.

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On 4/21/2014 birddrops said:
On 4/21/2014 Lotus~ said:

I'm going to post a shorter version or my original one I did that DIDN'T post.

Had my shot on THursday under sedation (I was chicken) and was able to go on a nice walk without pain on Saturday....about a mile!! Yay for me.

I had my MRI and Xrays....showed disc damage up and down my spine and stenosis.

I'm hoping that I continue to improve and I know that it may not help and subsequent shots may be necessary.

I asked about the side effects because I'm experiencing the facial flushing, night sweats, stomach pain (I feel hungry often, which is NOT the norm for me) and a feeling of restlessness/anxiousness....and retaining some fluids.

The Pain Mgmt Dr wanted me to check in today so I will and mention all these things to him. And I will ask him about the diabetes.

Thanks for all of your replies. Smile

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birddrops


Didn't and won't read you last post. Stick me with a fork, I'm done.

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On 4/21/2014 hckynut said:

birddrops


Didn't and won't read you last post. Stick me with a fork, I'm done.

Sure you didn't John.

It would have been more effective if you had just ignored me.

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""It's not so strange now. Addicts and drug seekers have made it very hard for people that really have pain to get pain pills (narcotics). The Docs just don't want to give them or keep anyone on them for any length of time.""

It's a lot more than that. The government monitors how much pain medication is prescribed. A lot of doctors don't want to raise any ""red flags"" by prescribing too much. Just another example of how the government sticks it's nose into areas it doesn't belong.

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Yes, I had them..no they didn't really hurt..and no they didn't really help.

That said, I now have a hip issue and am going to do that route..to try as that is my only option!

I am hoping for a different result due to the different body part lol..one can hope.

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On 4/22/2014 glb613 said:

"It's not so strange now. Addicts and drug seekers have made it very hard for people that really have pain to get pain pills (narcotics). The Docs just don't want to give them or keep anyone on them for any length of time."

It's a lot more than that. The government monitors how much pain medication is prescribed. A lot of doctors don't want to raise any "red flags" by prescribing too much. Just another example of how the government sticks it's nose into areas it doesn't belong.


sometimes I need to read the replies before answering..in this case the question was over..procedure done lol..

But I wanted to comment on your post. I couldn't agree more. I know a MD and he is totally aggravated with the new laws in effect..he takes it seriously though and looks up at the state website he said before prescribing for anybody. He said he only caught a couple double doctor shopping..and in the long run it was more expensive to him then to catch two people..he said those people he believes were not selling etc but in reality was in tremendous pain and taking more then prescribed. He also said that the amount of time it takes to do this..he actually could see a couple more patients per day..

I think they need to focus their attention to areas of illegal drugs and while yeah have safeguards in place for narcotics but don't go overboard and treat each person like a drug dealer and make them feel like they are for filling a script prescribed by a MD. He said he receives more calls from Pharamacists as they too are scared of not catching something and getting in trouble. They too said yeah you have your abusers out there who doctor shop and sell but they are probably far less ..if there is a way they will find it..

They put more time and attention into monitoring sinus medication too..anybody who is going to make, manufacturer meth is going to buy it on the internet then one pack a month from a pharm.