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[CrazyDaisy]

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In this case, there was no right shoulder - although as noted, there were plenty of places to get off the road for those in the far right lane.

It was a divided street with a middle berm so the only option for the emergency vehicles was to try another route.

I still say it is inexcusable for those in the right lane not to move off the road.  I don't care what their schedule was or that they would be inconvenienced by having to then get back into traffic after the emergency vehicles passed.  That's what you do.

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The cars should not have to leave the road.  That will just cause more confussion.  If the emergency equipment does not have room to manuver around the stopped traffic, they should not be taking that route.  Should that be the only option, police should have been there to direct the drivers.

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state laws are pretty clear on this. Often an emergency doesnt allow there to xtra LE to handle traffic.

Get to the side of the road.

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According to OP there is no side of the road.

[sidsmom]

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So step off your high horse and petition the city to corret the issue on that road if you are that concerned.

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@CrazyDaisy

Oooof.

No need to express an opinion in this manner.

The OP is just expressing an opinion, not personal attacking,

which is against Community Guidelines.

[Marp]

Sounds like OP's community should be investing in Emergency Vehicle Preemption systems.

[CrazyDaisy]

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So step off your high horse and petition the city to corret the issue on that road if you are that concerned.

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@CrazyDaisy

Oooof.

No need to express an opinion in this manner.

The OP is just expressing an opinion, not personal attacking,

which is against Community Guidelines.

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Thank you for your comments.  Your opinion, I do not agree.

[Isobel Archer]

Why do you pull over - to get out of the way.  If there is no shoulder, then you get out of way by pulling into a parking lot if available.

I don't understand why this is such a problem.

Seriously, in an emergency, people really think if there is no shoulder - well then it's all the fault of the emergency vehicles and they should just find another route - and thus they have no responsibility to even try to get out of the way - when that is clearly possible.

I don't know where they were going - it could have been any business establishment along that road for all I know - so just what route should they have taken?  As noted the side streets are all narrow with parking on both sides.

I just hope when those who are so critical of my expecting people to try to help here, never need an ambulance in a life or death situation - which ends up stuck behind people who refuse to pull off the road to let it by - because  the law says they should not have to inconvenience themsevles that way.

[CrazyDaisy]

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Why do you pull over - to get out of the way.  If there is no shoulder, then you get out of way by pulling into a parking lot if available.

I don't understand why this is such a problem.

Seriously, in an emergency, people really think if there is no shoulder - well then it's all the fault of the emergency vehicles and they should just find another route - and thus they have no responsibility to even try to get out of the way - when that is clearly possible.

I don't know where they were going - it could have been any business establishment along that road for all I know - so just what route should they have taken?  As noted the side streets are all narrow with parking on both sides.

I just hope when those who are so critical of my expecting people to try to help here, never need an ambulance in a life or death situation - which ends up stuck behind people who refuse to pull off the road to let it by - because  the law says they should have to inconvenience themseles that way.

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This cannot possibly be the first time or the last that this situation will occur.  To expect everyone to think the same as you (contrary to what they may have been taught) is totally unreasonable.  You can make all the arguments you want but it is not going to change the situation  To make eveyone who sees the situation differently than you to be the evil bad guy is silly.  If you want to see things change take up these conditions with the proper authorities.

[GCR18]

Something similar happened around Christmas.  Two lanes going straight with a red light.  Two roads merging in.  Nobody coming on either of the two lanes.  I was two cars behind the first car.  Ambulance blowing it's horn non stop and the first car in each lane sat there until the light turned green.  There was plenty of room to pull up and over.  It just blows my mind.  I love when I pull over and the car behind me passes and keeps on going.  Huh?

[Isobel Archer]

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Why do you pull over - to get out of the way.  If there is no shoulder, then you get out of way by pulling into a parking lot if available.

I don't understand why this is such a problem.

Seriously, in an emergency, people really think if there is no shoulder - well then it's all the fault of the emergency vehicles and they should just find another route - and thus they have no responsibility to even try to get out of the way - when that is clearly possible.

I don't know where they were going - it could have been any business establishment along that road for all I know - so just what route should they have taken?  As noted the side streets are all narrow with parking on both sides.

I just hope when those who are so critical of my expecting people to try to help here, never need an ambulance in a life or death situation - which ends up stuck behind people who refuse to pull off the road to let it by - because  the law says they should have to inconvenience themseles that way.

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This cannot possibly be the first time or the last that this situation will occur.  To expect everyone to think the same as you (contrary to what they may have been taught) is totally unreasonable.  You can make all the arguments you want but it is not going to change the situation  To make eveyone who sees the situation differently than you to be the evil bad guy is silly.  If you want to see things change take up these conditions with the proper authorities.

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Not sure what I should "take up with proper authorities" - insisting that emergency vehicles be rerouted down side streets with cars parked on both sides rather than using a major street that provides a way during heavy traffic to pull off so that others can pull over?  Or maybe that driving rules should be changed to include every possible scenario and that mandating getting out of the way of emergency vehicles enroute to saving lives -  is not specific enough?  Again, I sincerely hope that you are never waiting for an ambulance under these conditions - where people who see the situation as you do simply stop and block the street - and apparently applaud themselves for their enlightened approach to the situation.  No shoulder, well too bad - the ambulance should take another route.

BTW - when I pulled into the parking lot, the car in the lane next to me tried to pull into my lane, but was blocked by the car behind me immediately going forward and then stopping.  I guess you think that was the right thing to do.

[Lipstickdiva]

I take a state route everyday to work.  In my city it's a 4 lane undivided highway but I cross over into a another city.  As soon as I make the cross over, the highway becomes divided with a concrete median. There are a couple of lights through here because there are business up and down both sides of this road 

There are certain times of the day when traffic is so jammed in that area you cannot move.  I have seen ambulances, police and fire stuck in that trying to get through and no one moves.  The only option through there would be for the cars in the left lanes to pull off into the parking lot of a business to clear the road and let the emergency vehicles get through but that never happens. The emergency vehicles sit there honking with their sirens on and no one budges.      

The law in Ohio requires drivers to pull to the right side of the road and stop.  If you are in the left lane and cannot get to the right, you are supposed to stop and put your hazard signals on so whatever emergency vehicle is behind you knows you are aware of them.

Ohio also has a move over and slow down law involving emergency vehicles, like police that have someone pulled over. 

[Isobel Archer]

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I take a state route everyday to work.  In my city it's a 4 lane undivided highway but I cross over into a another city.  As soon as I make the cross over, the highway becomes divided with a concrete median. There are a couple of lights through here because there are business up and down both sides of this road 

There are certain times of the day when traffic is so jammed in that area you cannot move.  I have seen ambulances, police and fire stuck in that trying to get through and no one moves.  The only option through there would be for the cars in the left lanes to pull off into the parking lot of a business to clear the road and let the emergency vehicles get through but that never happens. The emergency vehicles sit there honking with their sirens on and no one budges.      

The law in Ohio requires drivers to pull to the right side of the road and stop.  If you are in the left lane and cannot get to the right, you are supposed to stop and put your hazard signals on so whatever emergency vehicle is behind you knows you are aware of them.

Ohio also has a move over and slow down law involving emergency vehicles, like police that have someone pulled over. 

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I guess maybe the lawmakers tried to be specific, but failed?  I mean - truly does it make sense to just sit there when you can get out of the way?  I truly cannot understand that logic - and I don't care how "right" people think they are in doing this - what about the person who is dying or whose house is on fire?

I guess - under the law - if someone swerves into your lane - you would be "right" and the "innocent party" if you let him hit you, but wouldn't most people get out of the way if they could?  But then that is personal  - where someone needing emergency assistance isn't, I guess.

I also strongly suspect that some of the people insisting that you don't have to pull off the street would be moving pretty quickly if the vehicle next to them were on fire and they feared an explosion.  But again, that would be personal.