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  Do you think once a felon has served their time, that their criminal record should be erased?

 

  I'm thinking perhaps it should, with the exception of child abuse or domestic violence.

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Re: Another question re: prison


@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:

  Do you think once a felon has served their time, that their criminal record should be erased?

 

  I'm thinking perhaps it should, with the exception of child abuse or domestic violence.


OMG, what about murder, not all murder cases are life sentences!  No they should not be erased!!!

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Re: Another question re: prison

No, I don't think a felon's criminal record should be erased.  What about someone who has a DUI?  Many of those are repeat offenders and the history is important in sentencing.

 

If someone commits a crime he/she knows the consequences.  That person should be given the chance to rebuild his life after serving his time, but on the other side, people who will interact with him (employer, future partner), have a right to know his history.

 

(Seems to be a lot of interest in prison topics lately.  Any particular reason?)

 

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Re: Another question re: prison

No, because then there would be no way to track repeat offenders and this is a problem all in itself.

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Re: Another question re: prison

Never!  There's a reason that they are a felon.

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Re: Another question re: prison

Erased?  Definitely not.  But I do think we as a society need to accept that once a person competed their prison sentance, they should not be further punished by depriving them of their rights to work or go to school or just re-enter society.  I've read that many of go back to crime because when they get out, they can't find work and they can't support themselves any other way.  The son of an friend is in that position now.  He served 6 years for burglaries but he's locked out of anything that can help him rebuild his life.  No one will hire the guy and he couldn't even get into a trade school because he had a record.   No 26 year old wants to live in his mother's house and receive an allowance from her.  She worries that he'll go back to his old ways out of desperation.

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Absolutely not!  Many are repeat offenders.  Just because they served the time given for a particular crime obviously does not mean they have been rehabilitated. We need to know who we are dealing with - hiding criminal history can be very dangerous to all of us.  I'm sure our law enforcement people who put their lives on the line daily need to know the background of those they come across in their daily activities.  Employers certainly need to know if they are hiring felons for the safety of their employees or because of workplace theft.    What about people you meet and date and possibly marry or those you be-friend - certainly need to know what you are getting in to.  Makes no sense to me.

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Re: Another question re: prison


@Venezia wrote:

No, I don't think a felon's criminal record should be erased.  What about someone who has a DUI?  Many of those are repeat offenders and the history is important in sentencing.

 

If someone commits a crime he/she knows the consequences.  That person should be given the chance to rebuild his life after serving his time, but on the other side, people who will interact with him (employer, future partner), have a right to know his history.

 

(Seems to be a lot of interest in prison topics lately.  Any particular reason?)

 


"A lot?"

This is the second thread I've started about prison!

 

LOL

 

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Re: Another question re: prison

A true story for you to consider:

 

A very good friend lives with 2 other people. This friend must wear a gun at his job. He has a very elaborate safe that costs thousands and his weapons are secure. He rents the lower part of a single family home from a couple; also employed. Last year a 3rd person moved in; she's an old friend of the couple. No issues. 6 months ago, the couple informed my friend and the other roommate that an OLD friend of the wifes' (childhood) was going to move in with them. There's one thing that everyone had to know: she was getting out of prison after 12 years for theft/embezzlement. Yes, she is a convicted felon.

 

My good friend was concerned due to the state laws regarding weapons and convicted felons (they can not own or use a gun). In some states, they can not live in a home with weapons- would he have to move out? Was that fair for him? What exactly did she do?

 

 

Long story short, she stole 10 million from her company: a company that works specifically with the elderly and disabled. She stole from people she had known for more than 30 years; from people who TRUSTED her; from people who gave her gift cards, homemade goodies, cash,etc, because she was a bookkeeper and well, they don't make a lot of money.

 

They do when the steal.

 

She took that money and bought a luxury 3 bedroom condo with every upgrade you can imagine. She had a professional decorator travel the world to find her pieces to decorate her condo. Her chandelier alone cost $35,000. She took money and invested it so she could make MORE money for herself. She bought 2 cars; 1 was a junker- she drove that to work. The other, a Mercedes S class that cost over $125,000. She traveled first class everywhere when she went on vacation, bought CHANEL bags, jewelry from Tiffany's and Van Cleef (to name just 2) and lived a very nice life... for many, many years.

 

How was she caught? It's a SMALL world, folks. While on a vacation in Paris, she met 2 lovely women. They dined together, shopped and then said good bye. One day, one of these women walked in with her grand-daughter into the office and saw the woman working; she looked VERY different then she did in Paris. Something made her suspicious. You see, she was there to find out why her disabled sister had FAR less  money in her account than she should. In the end, she did some digging, hired a private investigator and well.... the truth came out.

 

To say she is hated is an understatement by those who worked with her, under her and trusted her with their money. Her condo, cars,... ALL assets were seized. She MUST pay back the remaining balance. Her rules to live by as per the court:

 

*can not handle money, ever

*can not work where a vault is involved, ever

*can not be bonded

*no credit cards

*can not OWN property of ANY kind, not eve a car. 

*can not have any savings.

 

The last 2 are in place UNTIL the balance is paid off of what she stole. 

 

What job can she have? Pretty limited if you think about it. That said, the jobs she CAN have are "beneath her". She expects the people in the house to drive her everywhere and pay for her needs.

 

Dear friends is looking for a new place.

 

 

So, tell me, should her record be erased after serving her time? Should these limits be placed on her? Is it fair to her?

 

 

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Re: Another question re: prison

No.  
Do the math.