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On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 happy housewife said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 happy housewife said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

It's obvious to me that she's had work done on her face, but only because I saw pictures of her not too long ago that showed her true skin and features. Well, also because there is no 75-year-old who has such a smooth, wrinkle-free face naturally!

I don't know why, but she vaguely reminds me of the grandmother on The Waltons with her current look...must be the angle of her face in that particular shot or the pulled-back hair.

Not sure what an "Equestrian", or "Hamptons" look is supposed to be, but she looks nice for an elderly woman.

And since when is 75 elderly?

What age do you think qualifies as elderly?

mid 80s

Elderly is when you have way more years behind you than you do ahead of you.

That would probably mean 50 for most people

Okay...waaay more years behind you (added a few more "a's").

I know that people in their late 60s through early 70s don't like to think of themselves as old or elderly or "seniors". However, in western countries, it is generally held that that chronological demarcation is reached when Social Security benefits begin, or even "senior citizen discounts."

It's not surprising that as a person ages, their own definition of what is "elderly" and what is "young" or "middle-aged" tends to creep up higher the closer they get to those benchmarks. However, there is no reason to get silly about it and start thinking that 60s, 70s or older is "young" or even "middle-aged." They just aren't, regardless of how "young" one feels. Your body is old, your bones are old, your internal organs are old. It's just what it is.

wow! how totally rude are you?

[Elstongunn]

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 happy housewife said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 happy housewife said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

It's obvious to me that she's had work done on her face, but only because I saw pictures of her not too long ago that showed her true skin and features. Well, also because there is no 75-year-old who has such a smooth, wrinkle-free face naturally!

I don't know why, but she vaguely reminds me of the grandmother on The Waltons with her current look...must be the angle of her face in that particular shot or the pulled-back hair.

Not sure what an "Equestrian", or "Hamptons" look is supposed to be, but she looks nice for an elderly woman.

And since when is 75 elderly?

What age do you think qualifies as elderly?

mid 80s

Elderly is when you have way more years behind you than you do ahead of you.

That would probably mean 50 for most people

Okay...waaay more years behind you (added a few more "a's").

I know that people in their late 60s through early 70s don't like to think of themselves as old or elderly or "seniors". However, in western countries, it is generally held that that chronological demarcation is reached when Social Security benefits begin, or even "senior citizen discounts."

It's not surprising that as a person ages, their own definition of what is "elderly" and what is "young" or "middle-aged" tends to creep up higher the closer they get to those benchmarks. However, there is no reason to get silly about it and start thinking that 60s, 70s or older is "young" or even "middle-aged." They just aren't, regardless of how "young" one feels. Your body is old, your bones are old, your internal organs are old. It's just what it is.

For sure, I agree the 60s aren't elderly, and the definition does change when we get closer to what we once thought of as old.

But, with fashion, makeup, hair coloring, fitness and healthy food, and medical advances, probably a lot of people are in better shape than someone their age 50 or more years ago.

I can't disagree with that. In fact, look how strikingly different grandmothers look now compared with those same grandmothers' grandparents. But that pertains to LOOKS...and fashion, make-up, surgical and non-surgical cosmetic procedures, hair implants, dental procedures, medical procedures have all contributed to that outward appearance/image. Their insides are still aging. Health and fitness do play a role in mitigating some effects of aging, but the fact remains that hormone levels have dropped off, mental acuity diminishes, stamina and energy levels drop, bones are thinning, balance is lessened, the skin thins and becomes more delicate, hearing is diminished, eyesight lessens, all because of the aging process that really begins to take hold past age 50.

I'm pretty much a realist when it comes to aging. When people exclaim at the death of a 72-year-old, "Oh, he/she was MUCH too young to die," I have to wonder what fantasy world they are living in. No, 72 isn't too young to die. It's close to the average lifespan of a person (yes, I know some live longer). And I'm speaking of full QUALITY of life, not just quantity where people have managed to just hang on until their 80s/90s.

So yes...a person in their 70s is certainly "elderly" by most definitions.

[gazelle77]

Meow! Picking her apart for just being naturally beautiful, not dying her hair. I think she is lovely!

[NoelSeven]

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

For sure, I agree the 60s aren't elderly, and the definition does change when we get closer to what we once thought of as old.

But, with fashion, makeup, hair coloring, fitness and healthy food, and medical advances, probably a lot of people are in better shape than someone their age 50 or more years ago.

I can't disagree with that. In fact, look how strikingly different grandmothers look now compared with those same grandmothers' grandparents. But that pertains to LOOKS...and fashion, make-up, surgical and non-surgical cosmetic procedures, hair implants, dental procedures, medical procedures have all contributed to that outward appearance/image. Their insides are still aging. Health and fitness do play a role in mitigating some effects of aging, but the fact remains that hormone levels have dropped off, mental acuity diminishes, stamina and energy levels drop, bones are thinning, balance is lessened, the skin thins and becomes more delicate, hearing is diminished, eyesight lessens, all because of the aging process that really begins to take hold past age 50.

I'm pretty much a realist when it comes to aging. When people exclaim at the death of a 72-year-old, "Oh, he/she was MUCH too young to die," I have to wonder what fantasy world they are living in. No, 72 isn't too young to die. It's close to the average lifespan of a person (yes, I know some live longer). And I'm speaking of full QUALITY of life, not just quantity where people have managed to just hang on until their 80s/90s.

So yes...a person in their 70s is certainly "elderly" by most definitions.

The life expectancy of a woman is the US is now 82, so I can see why some people think 72 is too young to die, especially if it was someone they loved.

I agree with you that no matter how good we look on the outside, we're aging on the inside, but medical advances are a large part of the reason most of us survive longer now than our grandparents did.

This is an interesting conversation. FYI, I looked up global life expectancy and was surprised to find there are 33 countries with a greater life expectancy than America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

[Autumn in NY]

My grandparents lived til their mid 90s and they were born in the 1800s.

[Lucky Charm]

I announce once a year (at least) that I am going to let my hair go gray.

My hair is shoulder length and letting the roots just grow in and take over would be a bad look.

I'd let my roots grow out a bit (painfully longer than usual).

Then I'd get it cut short which would be uncomfortable for me, to be honest. I'd have some platinum highlights put it to pull the lighter all through the length (but still shorter hair).

I'd probably grow it almost to shoulder length again after I became 'natural'.

I figure now is the best time to do it as I don't have an 'aged' face, I'm told all the time my skin is in awesome condition and I don't have wrinkles at all.

I know that overall the natural hair color will age me though. But aging is natural. And what really bothers me is all the chemicals I've been abusing my hair with just for brown hair.

DH's hair is still brown for the most part, his moustache is more gray. He never has gray at the roots though. Either the hair is brown or it's gray.

I hate the gray at the root. UGH!

[Lucky Charm]

On 9/26/2014 Autumn in NY said: My grandparents lived til their mid 90s and they were born in the 1800s.

My great grandmother was born in 1898. She died in an accident when she was 76 and still wasn't gray.

She had long wavy dark brown hair (almost all the way down her back). But she always kept it in a bun. We only saw it down when she first woke up in the morning.

Unfortunately, I didn't inherit her genes.

[Tinkrbl44]

Medical advances have changed how long --- and how --- people live .... and we currently have over 110,000 Americans over the age of 100 .... so it's quite plausible that more and more will be hitting the 100 mark.

Making that assumption, an "old" person at the ripe old age of 65 still has 35 years to go ..... and lots of living to do.

Nobody has a crystal ball and you just never know .... but the Boomer generation shows no signs of slowing down.

Go Boomers !!!

[Elstongunn]

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

For sure, I agree the 60s aren't elderly, and the definition does change when we get closer to what we once thought of as old.

But, with fashion, makeup, hair coloring, fitness and healthy food, and medical advances, probably a lot of people are in better shape than someone their age 50 or more years ago.

I can't disagree with that. In fact, look how strikingly different grandmothers look now compared with those same grandmothers' grandparents. But that pertains to LOOKS...and fashion, make-up, surgical and non-surgical cosmetic procedures, hair implants, dental procedures, medical procedures have all contributed to that outward appearance/image. Their insides are still aging. Health and fitness do play a role in mitigating some effects of aging, but the fact remains that hormone levels have dropped off, mental acuity diminishes, stamina and energy levels drop, bones are thinning, balance is lessened, the skin thins and becomes more delicate, hearing is diminished, eyesight lessens, all because of the aging process that really begins to take hold past age 50.

I'm pretty much a realist when it comes to aging. When people exclaim at the death of a 72-year-old, "Oh, he/she was MUCH too young to die," I have to wonder what fantasy world they are living in. No, 72 isn't too young to die. It's close to the average lifespan of a person (yes, I know some live longer). And I'm speaking of full QUALITY of life, not just quantity where people have managed to just hang on until their 80s/90s.

So yes...a person in their 70s is certainly "elderly" by most definitions.

The life expectancy of a woman is the US is now 82, so I can see why some people think 72 is too young to die, especially if it was someone they loved.

I agree with you that no matter how good we look on the outside, we're aging on the inside, but medical advances are a large part of the reason most of us survive longer now than our grandparents did.

This is an interesting conversation. FYI, I looked up global life expectancy and was surprised to find there are 33 countries with a greater life expectancy than America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Eighty-two is now the average life expectancy of a woman? Wow, I thought it was still in the mid- to upper 70s.

Well, then, I see I have to revise my thinking on this.

[NoelSeven]

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/26/2014 ktlynam said:

On 9/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

For sure, I agree the 60s aren't elderly, and the definition does change when we get closer to what we once thought of as old.

But, with fashion, makeup, hair coloring, fitness and healthy food, and medical advances, probably a lot of people are in better shape than someone their age 50 or more years ago.

I can't disagree with that. In fact, look how strikingly different grandmothers look now compared with those same grandmothers' grandparents. But that pertains to LOOKS...and fashion, make-up, surgical and non-surgical cosmetic procedures, hair implants, dental procedures, medical procedures have all contributed to that outward appearance/image. Their insides are still aging. Health and fitness do play a role in mitigating some effects of aging, but the fact remains that hormone levels have dropped off, mental acuity diminishes, stamina and energy levels drop, bones are thinning, balance is lessened, the skin thins and becomes more delicate, hearing is diminished, eyesight lessens, all because of the aging process that really begins to take hold past age 50.

I'm pretty much a realist when it comes to aging. When people exclaim at the death of a 72-year-old, "Oh, he/she was MUCH too young to die," I have to wonder what fantasy world they are living in. No, 72 isn't too young to die. It's close to the average lifespan of a person (yes, I know some live longer). And I'm speaking of full QUALITY of life, not just quantity where people have managed to just hang on until their 80s/90s.

So yes...a person in their 70s is certainly "elderly" by most definitions.

The life expectancy of a woman is the US is now 82, so I can see why some people think 72 is too young to die, especially if it was someone they loved.

I agree with you that no matter how good we look on the outside, we're aging on the inside, but medical advances are a large part of the reason most of us survive longer now than our grandparents did.

This is an interesting conversation. FYI, I looked up global life expectancy and was surprised to find there are 33 countries with a greater life expectancy than America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Eighty-two is now the average life expectancy of a woman? Wow, I thought it was still in the mid- to upper 70s.

Well, then, I see I have to revise my thinking on this.

Yes, 82 they say. That link has really interesting information.