Re: Ailes Out at Fox?

ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

if hannity o'reilly greta and others leave as is a possibility since they apparently have clauses allowing them to do same if Ailes is not longer there - if one can believe reports, they could start a competing network. vedddddy interesting!

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@ms traditional wrote:
if hannity o'reilly greta and others leave as is a possibility since they apparently have clauses allowing them to do same if Ailes is not longer there - if one can believe reports, they could start a competing network. vedddddy interesting!

I worked in cable for over 20 years. It's VERY difficult to just "start a network" now. There are limited channel placements available. It's almost impossible to get on cable or satellite systems now without controlling a "bundle" of networks. Ex.: Disney owns ESPN, Disney Channel, and a slew of others. If an MSO wants to carry ESPN, they are forced into carrying ESPNU, ESPNClassic, ESPN2, on and on....PLUS all the others.

Remember when Glenn left? It didn't go well for him. He thought he would start his own multi-platform empire and make a fortune. He has had to lay off most of his staff now.

ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

@terrier3 wrote:
@ms traditional wrote:
if hannity o'reilly greta and others leave as is a possibility since they apparently have clauses allowing them to do same if Ailes is not longer there - if one can believe reports, they could start a competing network. vedddddy interesting!
I worked in cable for over 20 years. It's VERY difficult to just "start a network" now. There are limited channel placements available. It's almost impossible to get on cable or satellite systems now without controlling a "bundle" of networks. Ex.: Disney owns ESPN, Disney Channel, and a slew of others. If an MSO wants to carry ESPN, they are forced into carrying ESPNU, ESPNClassic, ESPN2, on and on....PLUS all the others.

Remember when Glenn left? It didn't go well for him. He thought he would start his own multi-platform empire and make a fortune. He has had to lay off most of his staff now.

i take your first point. i imagine a group of high ratings talent powerhouses like this bunch could make something out of some lower rated networks already on the dial that wanted to change personality. interesting they had this clause. we'll see where the truth lies -

Ms X · ‎09-13-2012

@Stray wrote:
@Ms X wrote:
@Stray wrote:
@Ms X wrote:
@Stray This all happened as a result of Gretchen Carlson's suit. Fox had to open up an investigation, and between that and Gretchen's lawyers, there have been reports of a number of women coming forward against Ailes. I believe this is definitely precipitated by these events. If he does leave by Aug. 1, as has been reported even before the events of today, that will be what pushed him out the door.
@Ms X- I know what you are saying but she is no longer under contract with Fox and legally they owe her nothing....however, they may offer her a settlement to make it, him and her go away....that's if he admitted guilt or they are strongly suspicious it did take place. The Megyn Kelly claim is more significant as she is not disgruntled and Ailes is responsible for her success....but she walked back her statement, possibly....it's a strange case. If he admitted guilt or they established strong probability, they didn't have to give him anything....but $40 million if true, is quite unusual
I doubt she'd be suing if she couldn't get anything legally. Isn't she claiming she was harassed and then retaliated against, including let go?
@Ms X- the court assigns damages if he is found guilty....so far it hasn't gone to court and there is no admission of guilt...anyone can sue but it doesn't mean you win or it's legit ....She isn't suing Fox or Doocy but Ailes personally so he allegedly retaliated not the network. Fox won't be paying her anything unless they decide to; she has no beef with Fox as they were unaware. if she went through the grievance process and launched the investigation at the time and Ailes retaliated, Fox would be responsible because the victim is guaranteed privacy and protection from retaliation once the complaint is lodged.....she was foolish not to and that may work against her in arbitration but she stands a better chance with a jury which is why her attorneys are against arbitration.
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I was adressing your statement that she has no case because her contract is up, @Stray. That is incorrect, as I said.

Pearlee · ‎06-11-2011

@Stray wrote:
@Pearlee- this is odd....I don't know how accurate Drudge is but Megyn surprised me because he alone has promoted Megyn Kelly's career and arranged that silly Trump interview. I think she is playing both sides. She is negotiating her new contract and wants more money than O'Reilly.....so if Ailes is in, she may have walked back her comments but if Ailes is out, stay close to the Murdochs....I am loosing what little respect I had for her. I don't think she's all that good....Greta, to me, is their best!

@Stray I have not seen that Kelly wants more money than O'Reilly, only that she wants equal to his salary (link below). Do you have anything to support that she wants more?

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/07/megyn-kelly-might-stay-with-fox-news-after-all-if-she-gets-15m/

Ms X · ‎09-13-2012

@terrier3 wrote:
Further irony...not only is Susan Estrich serving as Ailes lawyer, the story that he was being forced out at Fox was broken by Matt Drudge! The people who are here supporting Ailes are also often the same people praising Drudge for his "news" site.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/reports-fox-news-ceo-roger-ailes-appears-headed-for-r...

I'm not sure what your point is, @terrier3. Drudge has sources inside Fox, including I believe Ailes and/or his team. He's had exclusives on both sides of this situation today and will continue to do so.

momtochloe · ‎11-03-2013

@Stray wrote:
@momtochloe- I know I saw some pretty outlandish complaints against women. I think many high performing women feel a certain entitlement because of gender and that harassment was only pertinent to men as being the offender .....but, the law protects everyone and the women were shocked that their behavior was inappropriate and that they were reported. There is a certain competition that exists between women but more about attractiveness, age, clothes, demeanor of another women....for men, there is competition but different.

@Stray I wish there was someone like you at the company when I was there as I would have glady reached out for help. Everyone was just terrified of her at all levels within the company.

You certainly didn't have any easy job and bless you for helping the people I know you were able to assist!

ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

interesting to see people supposedly lining up with the actions of those Murdoch boys. strange bedfellows. nobody really knows what is going on. we'll see who was blowing smoke - and who actually knew what was going on. there seem to be more than a few axes to grind, lol!

Ms X · ‎09-13-2012

At the moment, Drudge's twitter acount has been blocked. Why?

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@terrier3 wrote:
@ms traditional wrote:
if hannity o'reilly greta and others leave as is a possibility since they apparently have clauses allowing them to do same if Ailes is not longer there - if one can believe reports, they could start a competing network. vedddddy interesting!
I worked in cable for over 20 years. It's VERY difficult to just "start a network" now. There are limited channel placements available. It's almost impossible to get on cable or satellite systems now without controlling a "bundle" of networks. Ex.: Disney owns ESPN, Disney Channel, and a slew of others. If an MSO wants to carry ESPN, they are forced into carrying ESPNU, ESPNClassic, ESPN2, on and on....PLUS all the others.

Remember when Glenn left? It didn't go well for him. He thought he would start his own multi-platform empire and make a fortune. He has had to lay off most of his staff now.

Don't forget Disney owns ABC and all of its offshoots; as well as A&E (partially) and Lifetime Networks.

*Call Tyrone*