Adult dress codes - Page 21

MarieIG · ‎03-10-2010

A lot of jewelry and long nails on teachers, ok - unless their job requires touching the students. (The jewelry can catch in the hair, the nails can inadvertently scratch - which I found out after my first was born.) A college professor teaching art, I would think would not have too many constraints. My DH is required to wear steel toe boots to work, for safety reasons, and I think that's fine. I don't think clothes make a person more or less skilled or intelligent, but they are part of the total picture you present to your "audience." A brillant IT guy/gal may frequently be seen in jeans weaving his way around the office suits and if he can get the business' stalled network going, I suspect he could swing in on a vine wearing a loin cloth. However, I would not want my lawyer showing up in Court to defend me in jeans. Teachers are lauded for taking care of the communities most precious resource. They work hard, and are paid by taxpayers, who work hard in turn to pay those salaries. Teachers are role models for their children in elementary and high school grades. I would not be pleased if my child's teacher came to work in dirty and ripped clothes as a "fashion statement" or taught high school in a see through pair of pants. (This is just commenting on fashion - obviously, fashion alone certainly does NOT make a good employee.)

Do the math.

wilma · ‎03-13-2010

@Mellie32 wrote:
@Lipstickdiva wrote:
@Mellie32 wrote:
@Katcat1 wrote:
@Mellie32, Depending on the environment, especially when you are selling services you want to keep a certain image. However, times have changed over the years. We now have casual Friday. When I attended grammar school we could not wear pants. If it was cold outside, we could wear the pants to school but remove them for school. Back then boots were actually worn over the shoes. Remember those boots? LOL I actually think high schools need a dress code today. Girls dress way too casual with jeans, low cut tops not exactly appropriate for school IMO.
Nothing wrong with jeans - students or teachers.
And I disagree. I don't think teachers should be wearing jeans. I personally think that is far too casual.
A long-standing argument in my school district.

My older coworkers told me that a principal one time told them they couldn't wear any sort of pants that had some sort of seam going down the side (they called it something - I'd never heard of it and I can't remember what it was). I was like -- what? LOL! I say as long as you don't look like you're off to a club or about to mow your lawn you're good.

@Mellie32

@Lipstickdiva

@Katcat1

I had to chime in regarding jeans on teachers. When I started teaching in the early 80s we wore mostly skirt suits and pant suits. That slowly changed to nice trousers & skirts with nice tops. We never wore flip flops or sneakers.

Fast forward to the last few years...Many teachers wear crop pants, cargo pants, flip flops, athlesure wear, etc. but jeans are still not allowed in many schools. I thought I would test the waters and wear my dark indigo trouser jeans, flats, and a nice top one day. No one said anything to me, but I was prepared to politely argue that my outfit was just as appropriate as someone's else's wrinkled cargo crops, flip flops, and faded t-shirt. I started wearing my trouser jeans once a week. I also wore my boot cut black jeans to work a few times - again no reprimand. Wearing the jeans did not diminish my teaching ability, professionalism, or my students' respect for me. I think I would have been "spoken to" if I wore a more casual straight leg or slim jean.

RedTop · ‎09-01-2010

I truly wished there had been a dress code when I worked with several women 45+, and over 300 lbs., who thought stirrup pants and then leggings were the greatest additions ever to their work attire!

Mellie32 · ‎03-13-2010

@RedTop wrote:
I truly wished there had been a dress code when I worked with several women 45+, and over 300 lbs., who thought stirrup pants and then leggings were the greatest additions ever to their work attire!

We're back to that again. Not so much stirrups (I wore those in elementary school!), but leggings are back in a major way. And with the LulaRoe craze, the leggings are much worse now because they're all sorts of butt-ugly colors and patterns.

Irshgrl31201 · ‎03-18-2010

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Irshgrl31201

Did you grow up in Buffalo? I was born and raised there ... now I live in Southern CA.
Yes @Tinkrbl44, I grew up in Orchard Park, right outside of Buffalo. Wow, I didn't know you grew up there. I have seen threads of about people talking about foods or different things about Buffalo and I don't remember seeing you on them. Small world!
@Irshgrl31201

Oh this is too weird ..... I also went to Orchard Park HS. My sisters live in Hamburg now, so my niece and nephew went to Frontier HS. I don't recall ever seeing any Buffalo threads.

OMG, you are kidding! This is weird. What a small world, I really can't believe this @Tinkrbl44!

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
JFK

Pook · ‎03-20-2010

The example teachers should be giving is work ethic and how to treat others with respect. It has nothing to do with clothing choices!! A person can be conservatively "appropriately" dressed but not have common decency and no work ethic. I witnessed it and the workers I supervised that dressed in what some here say is appropriate for the workplace but to get them to do the job they were hired for was nearly impossible and the management thought they were so great because of the way they dressed. The work, as I kept pointing out was done by those who dressed in jeans and casual clothing.

esmerelda · ‎03-10-2010

I like dress codes...especially when they're enforced...and think they may be oppressive only to those who don't have a clue re: what is "appropriate" at their place of work.

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esmerelda · ‎03-10-2010

@Pook wrote:
The example teachers should be giving is work ethic and how to treat others with respect. It has nothing to do with clothing choices!! A person can be conservatively "appropriately" dressed but not have common decency and no work ethic. I witnessed it and the workers I supervised that dressed in what some here say is appropriate for the workplace but to get them to do the job they were hired for was nearly impossible and the management thought they were so great because of the way they dressed. The work, as I kept pointing out was done by those who dressed in jeans and casual clothing.

@Pook So what was the problem that those who got the work done couldn't dress "appropriately"? Or maybe didn't want to treat the administrators with respect (by adhering to the dress code).

Is this a case of have a dress code but not enforcing it? In my experience those who fail to follow the dress code get the high marks. So I guess it's different everywhere.

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CHIP62 · ‎09-06-2014

@Mellie32,

Yes in certain professions for safety issues, I will never forget a senior student who died on a lab at my University precisely because she did not comply with the protocols and well the details are too terrible. It makes life easy for schoolers and although you cannot regulate everything common sense and respect should prevail🌻when you get out of your house you are facing the public arena.

Pook · ‎03-20-2010

@esmerelda wrote:
@Pook wrote:
The example teachers should be giving is work ethic and how to treat others with respect. It has nothing to do with clothing choices!! A person can be conservatively "appropriately" dressed but not have common decency and no work ethic. I witnessed it and the workers I supervised that dressed in what some here say is appropriate for the workplace but to get them to do the job they were hired for was nearly impossible and the management thought they were so great because of the way they dressed. The work, as I kept pointing out was done by those who dressed in jeans and casual clothing.
@Pook So what was the problem that those who got the work done couldn't dress "appropriately"? Or maybe didn't want to treat the administrators with respect (by adhering to the dress code).

Is this a case of have a dress code but not enforcing it? In my experience those who fail to follow the dress code get the high marks. So I guess it's different everywhere.

@esmerelda First, safety and hygenic issues were the only standards of dress!! Second, those that dressed in what some old fashioned posters consider "appropriate" just looked "professional" and pulled the wool over the management's eyes and got away with not doing their job and that was the only problem!! Looks mean nothing as employees are hired to do a job - not smile at management, look good but do virtuallly as little as possible while spending the first hour preparing and eating breakfast, reading the paper then all day long making personal phone calls and socializing, not being nice to the public they were hired to help (resulting in so many complaints that management refused to believe)!!! Guess who cleaned up the messes??? Our so called management didn't deserve respect (no one should automatically be respected because they have a title - everyone needs to earn that!!) and dressing isn't the way to do that - doing the work and doing it correctly is more appropriate!!!

When my dad was in a nursing home, the worker who took care of him the best (he was a very difficult person) was a a sweet young woman who had tats all over, piercings and spiked different colored hair. She made the effort to get to know him and got him to eat, take meds and even laugh - while the others didn't bother and avoided him even marking his charts that he ate and took his meds - but they looked "professional"!!!!