Re: A shift in attitudes - Mentoring program - Page 2

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

@deepwaterdotter wrote:
Sounds like the concept of 'office politics' is in transition.

Could the "shift in attitudes" you describe be remedied by hiring more mature employees?

Good luck with that.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

@Burnsite wrote:
I think the terms shift with the decades, but the basic situation is the same: lots of people don't really work too hard, but if they work at all they need perks and gold stars.

My dad was a small town doctor in the 1950s and told me once he thought 90% of his patients had emotional issues that played out in family life and the workplace. He thought that many were basically unemployable because they didn't really understand what "work" meant. He was a republican but supported McGovern's idea of a "negative" income tax to supply basic needs for unemployable people. He thought it would save money because he thought social workers and programs couldn't really correct this sense of entitlement once it was established. He still thought these folks should receive some basic income, which would cost less than welfare (as it was then called ) + extra programs.

I am not saying I agreed with him then or now, but he saw a lot of patients and this was his opinion.

Exactly my point on another thread - and for many of these folks it does indeed become a way of life to expect the government to take care of them.

deepwaterdotter · ‎03-09-2010

@Burnsite wrote:
I think the terms shift with the decades, but the basic situation is the same: lots of people don't really work too hard, but if they work at all they need perks and gold stars.

My dad was a small town doctor in the 1950s and told me once he thought 90% of his patients had emotional issues that played out in family life and the workplace. He thought that many were basically unemployable because they didn't really understand what "work" meant. He was a republican but supported McGovern's idea of a "negative" income tax to supply basic needs for unemployable people. He thought it would save money because he thought social workers and programs couldn't really correct this sense of entitlement once it was established. He still thought these folks should receive some basic income, which would cost less than welfare (as it was then called ) + extra programs.

I am not saying I agreed with him then or now, but he saw a lot of patients and this was his opinion.

Hi Burnsite, Your father devised a very interersting theory. I think it has merit in today's social and economic environment.

ROMARY · ‎04-28-2010

In general, and probably off topic: I've noticed, all through my long years, that some 'spoiled' (in quotes) kids aren't necessarily all that happy in the long run. Haven't we heard, years ago, and all too often, that it was 'normal' for some/maybe many of the 'rich' kids to have ongoing 'professional' help/sessions. When parents continuously give material items to 'make their kids happy', etc. I do believe that it carries on and on throughout adulthood. (Please note: Sometimes, and not always, of course)

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).

Abrowneyegirl · ‎03-15-2010

We were discussing this again this week within our mentoring program.......

It is not the entitlement that is new or surprising it is the the issue that they think EVERYTHING is ILLEGAL if it is not fair it must be illegal and they think if they can call an attorney and make the company or their boss do "something".

The entitlement does not surprise me anymore, we had a young college grad 2 years out of college, and lost a job offer because they wanted to know if their new office was going to be redecorated before they started (and NOT after the start date) because they did not like the color/style of the desk, bookshelves and walls- it was too dated for their taste!!!

The candidate could NOT understand why they never recieved a writen offer letter and the company ceased all communication. (((groan))))

deepwaterdotter · ‎03-09-2010

Are "the company or their boss" engaged in "illegal" activities in the workplace?

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

@IamMrsG wrote:
I think this goes hand-in-hand with the thread about America's middle class being broke. What I mean is that people these days feel entitled and don't want to work or wait for anything.

There was a time when we believed earning something had merit.

It seems to be a pervasive attitude on this forum that young people don't want to work for a living. I just don't get it......the young people I know are hard working and always have been. My own kids on their own volition asked if they could get their working papers back in high school. They surrounded themselves with other kids who did exactly the same. They are now success stories and never expected anything for nothing. High paying jobs and continuing education ....go-getters not the negativity often expressed here about the younger generation.

These blanket statements about how WE believed earning something had merit is just nonsense. The future generation are no different than my own. We have always had people who wanted everything for nothing...my generation included. We just didn't have as many venues to share that information.

Remember the generation of drop out and get high.....the 60's and 70's had its share of moochers. We seem to look back on our generation with rose colored glasses.

hopi · ‎03-09-2010

Due to business, companies and major corporations showing absolutely no loyalty or obligation to it's workers along with no job security, lower wages, no pensions and companies that break contracts and monies owed, workers have to stand up for themselves.

Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

@Trinity11 wrote:
@IamMrsG wrote:
I think this goes hand-in-hand with the thread about America's middle class being broke. What I mean is that people these days feel entitled and don't want to work or wait for anything.

There was a time when we believed earning something had merit.
It seems to be a pervasive attitude on this forum that young people don't want to work for a living. I just don't get it......the young people I know are hard working and always have been. My own kids on their own volition asked if they could get their working papers back in high school. They surrounded themselves with other kids who did exactly the same. They are now success stories and never expected anything for nothing. High paying jobs and continuing education ....go-getters not the negativity often expressed here about the younger generation.

These blanket statements about how WE believed earning something had merit is just nonsense. The future generation are no different than my own. We have always had people who wanted everything for nothing...my generation included. We just didn't have as many venues to share that information.

Remember the generation of drop out and get high.....the 60's and 70's had its share of moochers. We seem to look back on our generation with rose colored glasses.

Bravo! Post of the day!

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

12andcounting · ‎03-10-2010

@DiAnne wrote:
I think this is how children are raised now. Spoiled children have turned into spoiled adults!

I TOTALLY agree! And you have to wonder how parents can be so stupid not to see that this is going to be the result when these spoiled children grow up. Geez.