Beauty

[HappyDaze]

On 1/15/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 1/15/2015 untitled said:

On 1/15/2015 suzyQ3 said:

I'm one who is not convinced that milia is easily caused by creams or potions. Milia are not break-outs and don't form in pores. Here is an excellent explanation:

Milia

I agree with you suzyQ3. I was blessed with healthy very normal skin, but my beautiful daughter not so much. She started getting milia when she was like 15, she is 22 now. And she was not using any heavy creams. I took her to the derm and they said it was a lack of cell-turnover. They would remove them but it was so painful for her. And then they would come back. They gave her some Retin-A but that caused her to peel alot and she didn't like all the flaking. I felt so powerless that I just couldn't fix things for her. She lives in NY so I don't get to see her as much. But I think about her skin and keep searching for some solution to help her...

And btw- that was a good link.

Thank you. One misconception is that milia are clogged pores, but milia don't even form in the pores.

The same information that is in the link that I provided can also be found on several other very credible sites.

BTW, on most sites, they do recommend a retinol product and/or exfoliation as possible prevention, but I don't think there's any guarantee that it will prevent milia if one is prone to them.

That is a huge misconception and one I've read on here on numerous occasions- that the milia is a clogged pore. Honestly, I never knew much about it because I've been fortunate enough to not have had to deal with that issue but now that I looked more into it, I tend to agree with much of this article.

Although I know some don't care about what the scientific communities says about it, for those that are interested, there are several studies showing a connection with using topical steroids (such as those to treat excema, rashes, and dermatitis) and milia. Basically the majority of studies agree that there is a connection with the formation of milia with disease, medications, trauma or simply a genetic connection which makes you more prone to them, especially as an infant or in your later years.

[suzyQ3]

On 1/15/2015 untitled said:

On 1/15/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 1/15/2015 untitled said:

On 1/15/2015 suzyQ3 said:

I'm one who is not convinced that milia is easily caused by creams or potions. Milia are not break-outs and don't form in pores. Here is an excellent explanation:

Milia

I agree with you suzyQ3. I was blessed with healthy very normal skin, but my beautiful daughter not so much. She started getting milia when she was like 15, she is 22 now. And she was not using any heavy creams. I took her to the derm and they said it was a lack of cell-turnover. They would remove them but it was so painful for her. And then they would come back. They gave her some Retin-A but that caused her to peel alot and she didn't like all the flaking. I felt so powerless that I just couldn't fix things for her. She lives in NY so I don't get to see her as much. But I think about her skin and keep searching for some solution to help her...

And btw- that was a good link.

Thank you. One misconception is that milia are clogged pores, but milia don't even form in the pores.

The same information that is in the link that I provided can also be found on several other very credible sites.

BTW, on most sites, they do recommend a retinol product and/or exfoliation as possible prevention, but I don't think there's any guarantee that it will prevent milia if one is prone to them.

Yes- I just keep sending her stuff, different exfoliators and retinol products and plus she has like kdbrown said a PMD device and clarisonic and the luna mini. It is just such a sensitive subject that I have to tread very cautiously in any questions about her skin. But she hasn't complained either. Thanks suzyQ3.

Oh, indeed, I know how careful we have to be with our kids. I hope that she either finds treatment that works, even if it's regular visits to the derm for removal, or that it resolves itself in time.

I'm sure that she is a beauty nonetheless. Really, a skin problem like this is always magnified in the mind of the sufferer. I bet most people wouldn't take the same notice.

[Toppers]

I get milia just from my own skin being so oily. I have had them on my upper cheeks, and around my lips and eyes. I don't even have to use any kind of heavy-based skin cream to get them.

[UMDTerpFan]

On 1/15/2015 pinkberry said: Products that are high in silicones cause milia for me. I use a heavy moisturizer and have for years (La Mer) and can put Vaseline on my face with no problems. But I recently tried an oil-free AHA gel and ended up with several small milia all over my face. For me, silicones, not oils, are the problem. Gels, primers, and some serums tend to have the greatest amount of silicones.

I agree with you. And I think a lot of the products the OP listed have dimethicone in them. For me, Algenist was one of the worst. And as much as I used to love Perricone, a lot of his products have dimethicone in them now. In some brands it is listed as one of the top five ingredients! So I always read the label now. I've always known my skin had issues with silicones because I could never wear a primer even before they became big. I tried every brand on the market at that time and my skin would breakout. Now everybody is putting dimethicone in their products so it limits what products I can buy. I guess that's a good thing, huh?

[magemay]

On 1/15/2015 UMDTerpFan said:

On 1/15/2015 pinkberry said: Products that are high in silicones cause milia for me. I use a heavy moisturizer and have for years (La Mer) and can put Vaseline on my face with no problems. But I recently tried an oil-free AHA gel and ended up with several small milia all over my face. For me, silicones, not oils, are the problem. Gels, primers, and some serums tend to have the greatest amount of silicones.

I agree with you. And I think a lot of the products the OP listed have dimethicone in them. For me, Algenist was one of the worst. And as much as I used to love Perricone, a lot of his products have dimethicone in them now. In some brands it is listed as one of the top five ingredients! So I always read the label now. I've always known my skin had issues with silicones because I could never wear a primer even before they became big. I tried every brand on the market at that time and my skin would breakout. Now everybody is putting dimethicone in their products so it limits what products I can buy. I guess that's a good thing, huh?

I stay far away them, too. I think they're overly used, just like Propylene and Butylene glycols. I won't buy a product that contains any of them.

They do help fill up a bottle, though.

I consider the problems that I had to be a blessing in disguise because they were the catalyst that sent me on a mission to find healthy products that are good quality and effective. I found that there are a number of quality products available that are free of all of them and fillers.

So, I'm actually thankful for the problems because without them, I may not have found the best products that I've ever used.

....... and they're made in the US, cruelty free and vegan, too.

[untitled]

suzyQ3- Thank you for your very kind and very thoughtful words.

[lavenderfields]

On 1/15/2015 pinkberry said: Products that are high in silicones cause milia for me. I use a heavy moisturizer and have for years (La Mer) and can put Vaseline on my face with no problems. But I recently tried an oil-free AHA gel and ended up with several small milia all over my face. For me, silicones, not oils, are the problem. Gels, primers, and some serums tend to have the greatest amount of silicones.

I agree with pinkberry. The silicones are the culprit. It is so hard to find ANY cosmetic products that don't contain silicones (cones) nowadays. I use natural, cold-pressed oils--argan, tamanu, maracuja, and carrot seed and exfoliate regularly and that keeps my millia under control.

[UMDTerpFan]

On 1/16/2015 1978christian said:

On 1/15/2015 pinkberry said: Products that are high in silicones cause milia for me. I use a heavy moisturizer and have for years (La Mer) and can put Vaseline on my face with no problems. But I recently tried an oil-free AHA gel and ended up with several small milia all over my face. For me, silicones, not oils, are the problem. Gels, primers, and some serums tend to have the greatest amount of silicones.

I agree with pinkberry. The silicones are the culprit. It is so hard to find ANY cosmetic products that don't contain silicones (cones) nowadays. I use natural, cold-pressed oils--argan, tamanu, maracuja, and carrot seed and exfoliate regularly and that keeps my millia under control.

Silicones don't agree with my face either & I agree, it seems like every company is putting it in their products nowadays. I have found a few creams that don't have silicone in them & are working well for me. Skinactives Antioxidant Day cream, Revitalizing Night Cream, UV Repair cream, & Vitamin A Cream. I would have loved the AntiAging Cream but it DOES have dimethicone in it. I am also using Andalou Naturals Revitalize Age Defying Fruit Stem Cell serum, Super Goji Peptide Perfecting cream and I just bought the Night Repair cream with Resveratol Q10 last night (My organic grocery store Roots has all Andalou products on sale through the end of January and it's also available at Whole Foods, Vitacost & iherb if you are interested in trying them). Both brands are reasonably priced products with loads of actives in them - way more than what you'd find in any major department store IMHO and at 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of major department brands, and I used to use some of the most expensive brands. Plus I just bought marula oil (see the thread I started a couple of days ago). My skin was in pretty good shape for my age (I'm almost 60) but I think my skin has been looking even better since switching to these products.