Beauty

[tulips]

I have to admit that I really enjoy this show. Call me whatever you want, but I like watching human behavior, scripted or not. from the beginning, Nick's cocky, over confident manner really got under my skin. I did think Andi was going to pick him because he tried very hard to blindside her. Did you notice that Nick seldom looked anyone in the eye when he spoke to them? Do you remember the temper tantrum he pulled on 1 of the group dates? Actually, he scared me long ago & I sure hope he has gotten Andi's dismissal out of his system. Nick's overt confidence made me realize that people who think that much of themselves will get shot sown at some point.

[missy1]

On 7/29/2014 beach-mom said:

There's a huge discussion of that in the Viewpoints forum HERE! As I've said there I don't for a minute believe this was Nick's decision. The producers told him what to say and how to act. Nick, Andi, and Josh were all acting. I even posted an article from the winner of the last season where she basically says the same thing. The show is scripted for ratings. Andi decided she liked Josh right away and told the producers. They scripted the show that way.

Why would Andi want to ruin her reputation? Unless it's a lot of $$$$$. I don't think Josh and her will last. I believe she slept with Nick and JP.

[beach-mom]

On 7/31/2014 missyw1 said:

On 7/29/2014 beach-mom said:

There's a huge discussion of that in the Viewpoints forum HERE! As I've said there I don't for a minute believe this was Nick's decision. The producers told him what to say and how to act. Nick, Andi, and Josh were all acting. I even posted an article from the winner of the last season where she basically says the same thing. The show is scripted for ratings. Andi decided she liked Josh right away and told the producers. They scripted the show that way.

Why would Andi want to ruin her reputation? Unless it's a lot of $$$$$. I don't think Josh and her will last. I believe she slept with Nick and JP.

She's under contract, as are Josh and Nick. They say what the producers want them to say and act the way the producers want them to. The contract says the contestants might be humiliated, embarrassed, or defamed. That's what they sign up for.

It's all about the storyline. The three of them, the others who were on the show with them, and some others know the real truth. We're not seeing it.

Look what's happening. Had Nick not said anything shocking, it would have been just another ho-hum Bachelorette end. Let's wait and see if they will stay together. People would talk about it for a day or two. But instead, everyone's still talking about it, Nick is still going on shows "explaining" himself, and there are a lot of Internet articles about this. Fleiss is happy - people talking about his show makes it better for him!

BTW - I do think Andi and Josh have a good chance of getting married.

[happygolfcartrider]

On 7/31/2014 Fortune said:

On 7/31/2014 OCGurl said:

On 7/31/2014 Ford1224 said:

I wonder how many of these bashers of the Bachelor/Bachelorette series watch the "Real Housewives of . . . wherever?" If we want to compare trashy shows, let's compare them. Let's include those shows where celebrities supposedly live their whole lives on TV. Or the "wife swapping" shows, how's about that for entertainment? How many of you watch people running up and down fake slides and round balls and falling into water? How many watch "Big Brother?" There's plenty of trash out there and people must be watching it or it would be gone.

I watch the B/B shows because they are light and don't make me want to crawl under my bed at night. It's fun for me, and takes me out of my worries for a couple of hours. We all have our "guilty pleasures," or do none of the bashers in this thread have any "guilty pleasures?"

[Ibby114]

On 7/31/2014 Lindy Lou said: As a Believer in Christ, I do not believe In s*x outside of marriage. I know that I am probably in the minority there, but I still believe that Nik had a right to be hurt if he truly felt her actions were intended to show that he was the one she loved. It sounded like he let her know that night, whenever that was, how serious and important that step was for him. He also tried to confront the issue privately, but she refused. That seems disrespectful and rude to me, especially if she continues to want to say that her feelings for him were real. Something about that does not seem sincere. I think she could have avoided the embarrassment if she would have just talked to him when he asked. He tried to do it right, but if she refused a meeting, then she needs to take some of the responsibility for the public "outing". Something tells me that she needs things to always be her way or watch out. Not an easy personality to deal with. JMHO

Andi explained in one of her interviews that any follow up conversation she would have had with Nick would have been taped. None of them would have been private! She knew she was going to see him on After the Final Rose so she decided to wait till then.

[virgosun]

ibb I saw this interview too (someone generously posted the link for it on this thread) and Andi did say that any meeting she had with Nick would have been filmed for tv so there would never have been a private meeting. And since she did read his letter I believe she did know how he felt but really had no comment to make until the live show. As she and Josh said in the same interview, they had talked about all of this when the shows finished taping months ago and had put it behind them. If they can do that so should Nick and everyone else. Too bad they can't get a chance to just enjoy their engagement together without this hanging over them and Nick popping up all over tv still whining and complaining.

[LilacTree]

On 7/31/2014 golfcartrider said:

On 7/31/2014 Fortune said:

On 7/31/2014 OCGurl said:

On 7/31/2014 Ford1224 said:

I wonder how many of these bashers of the Bachelor/Bachelorette series watch the "Real Housewives of . . . wherever?" If we want to compare trashy shows, let's compare them. Let's include those shows where celebrities supposedly live their whole lives on TV. Or the "wife swapping" shows, how's about that for entertainment? How many of you watch people running up and down fake slides and round balls and falling into water? How many watch "Big Brother?" There's plenty of trash out there and people must be watching it or it would be gone.

I watch the B/B shows because they are light and don't make me want to crawl under my bed at night. It's fun for me, and takes me out of my worries for a couple of hours. We all have our "guilty pleasures," or do none of the bashers in this thread have any "guilty pleasures?"

Thanks guys . . . !!!

[colliegirls]

I also watch the Bachelor / Bachelorette because it is mindless entertainment, no blood, no gore, just easy watching to unwind. Many other shows are disturbing and too violent for me. Obviously, many viewers agree and watch it since it has been renewed for years.

[Yesyesyes568]

On 7/31/2014 goldenretriever said:

Maggie, I so agree with you. Normally I'd feel sorry for someone in his position, but NOT NICK!

Every time he attempted to say a sentence to Andi, I wanted to scream. Who has that much time in their day? All the looking at the floor & saying jibberish....holy moly! I'd rather stay home & play with my dog. And when I ask my dog to "speak" he barks immediately- it doesn't take him 5 minutes to spit it out!

GOLDENRETREVER---DO I EVER KNOW, HOW WE AGREE WHAT A STOOGE, SO GLAD THE TALK ABOUT HIM HAS SLOWED DOWN, BECAUSE I COULD NOT TAKE IT ANY LONGER!" BUT IM SURE HE WILL FIND SOMEONE. SHE WILL BLUBBER WORDS AND TOGETHER THEY WILL BLUBBER THE LIVE LONG DAY LOL"