Beauty

[UMDTerpFan]

On 3/23/2015 bruingirl said:

On 3/22/2015 NC Bandwagon said:

Hello, NJ4Jays.

I don't think the Nick gets to choose which models to use his product on. I think Nick and Chaz probably know that the QVC models like to use lots of different products on their hair. And I don't think they mind. Perhaps it's all just a friendly competition between the two. They both know that they're on QVC to sell their product.

wen models only model for wen....you won't see any of the wen models modeling for another hair vendor unless they are no longer wen models

bruingirl, am I remembering correctly that you are now or were a WEN model? Just curious as I thought you'd mentioned that in a post a couple of years ago. If so, you are the definitive knowledgeable person to the question of whether models work with different hair vendors or not.

[bruingirl]

On 3/23/2015 UMDTerpFan said:

On 3/23/2015 bruingirl said:

On 3/22/2015 NC Bandwagon said:

Hello, NJ4Jays.

I don't think the Nick gets to choose which models to use his product on. I think Nick and Chaz probably know that the QVC models like to use lots of different products on their hair. And I don't think they mind. Perhaps it's all just a friendly competition between the two. They both know that they're on QVC to sell their product.

wen models only model for wen....you won't see any of the wen models modeling for another hair vendor unless they are no longer wen models

bruingirl, am I remembering correctly that you are now or were a WEN model? Just curious as I thought you'd mentioned that in a post a couple of years ago. If so, you are the definitive knowledgeable person to the question of whether models work with different hair vendors or not.

no, I'm not and never was a wen model. I am a friend and client of Chaz Dean Studio…I have been for several years and being a client I'm a test subject on new stuff which I love….and I give my feedback too. Hope this helps

[Nicole WI]

On 3/23/2015 Lannie said:

On 3/23/2015 Nicole WI said:

On 3/23/2015 Lannie said:

On 3/23/2015 bruingirl said:

On 3/23/2015 Lannie said:

On 3/23/2015 Nicole WI said: Just a look at it from the view point on QVC. The buyers of hair care products at QVC are going to buy what sells and at the end of the day what makes QVC the most money. I have never tries Mr. Chavez's products, but there are people that do seem to like them. I think from a strictly business standpoint QVC makes a killing selling Chaz Dean's products and QVC is following the money just as any business owner likely would... It is just something to think about as well as I am venturing to guess the vendors on QVC probably sign some contracts to not discredit other QVC items for sale by QVC. So IF Mr. Chavez did take a public shot at Chaz Dean's product line (I have no idea if he did, I am just going by the commemts on this thread) that could have been a HUGE breach in his contract with QVC and I <em>am guessing he was reprimanded or at least warned</em> not to make comments about other product lines QVC sells and endorses... Just something that crossed my mind and I am not saying this to be a fact of that I am aware of for certain any of this is what happened, but it came to mind when thinking back to some business classes I took. I do use WEN to make that clear to everyone reading this, but the post is meant to put the idea of what drives a company, like QVC, to sell a product and the bottom line for businesses is how much money a product is making them. Food for though, nothing else.

I'm sure you realize you are spreading and compounding rumors right here and now about "Mr" Chavez.

Take all your speculation and guesses and things that cross your mind and put that energy into something positive, Gladys.

LOL! really?? like the same thing doesn't happen to Chaz and/or wen??

and who are you to tell Nicole WI what to do?

I am someone who does not like gossiping and rumors and speculation in her post and to be more positive, what is wrong with that? Did you read her post? I don't like to see that sort of thing happen either way. It's demeaning.

What in the heck happened here! I am not spreading a rumor or making speculations regarding what Mr. Chavez siad or did not say about Chaz Dean and his product line I simply took the information posted on THIS thread and gave my hypothesis of what could have happened based on that information and if anyone seriously thinks these vendors are not signing contracts with QVC about what they can and cannot say or do, I suggest you a "Business 101" and learn a thing or two about who successful companies stay successful! Gosh common sense should actually kick in and tell you that! Nick Chavez (if that is how you prefer I address him) is not bringing QVC near what Chaz Dean does in sales for the sake of argument I will say annually. If you are in business selling anything, for example different brands of chairs, and you can only allocate to much money towards advertising to draw people into you business. Are you going to advertise that you sell your best selling chair or one you only sell a handful of? The obvious answer is draw in the people with what is selling now and going to give your business the most traffic to increase you possible sales. I am not degrading what Nick Chavez makes or sells, I have not used it. If it works for you that is fantastic. As far as it being gossip, I definitely did not start this thread and NEVER said that what I wrote was fact or I had seen it with my own eyes. I was giving you a hypothetic scenario that IF the events on posted on THIS thread did take place that it was POSSIBLE that QVC may or may not have taken actions to deal with the POSSIBLE situation. Gossip is when someone is spreading a rumor that are not known to be factual in content. At NO point in my post did I claim that anything I heard or said was based on anything but what I read here. It was made clear in my post and I am clarifying it for those who need to hear it AGAIN; I DID NOT SAY I HAD COLD HARD FACTS THAT THE EVENTS CONCERNING NICK CHAVEZ SAYING ANYTHING TO DISCREDIT THE PRODUCTS BY CHAZ DEAN FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY TOOK PLACE. I simply gave you a way to look at this situation hypothetically from a business standpoint. People on this form who have read my posts and had interaction with me know I would not gossip or intentionally spread false information about anyone or anything for that matter. If their are people out their who feel the need to twist my post into something it was not enjoy yourself. I am just happy I am not one of those miserable people who feel the need to do it myself.

You certainly are by your own admission and words making speculations and spreading rumors - you said you did not have facts yourself. I didn't say you did. You are repeating things that are not facts and making some assumptions and I'm saying that's how rumors get started.

I guess I don't have "common sense" according to you and am one of those "miserable people" who "twist posts". Your post was crystal clear. I don't need a class in Business 101, thank you, and I don't need to be shouted at

Alright, I am going to apologize for the fact I made my point in capital letters and I do know when doing so it can be considered yelling or shouting at another person. I am and was on my iPhone when I replied to your statement today and if I had the ability to have just replied with a normal sentence structure and place it in bold letters I would have. I was trying to make a point and I was not trying to do so by shouting, but I do see how it definitely appears that is what I was doing and I apoligize again for my poor judgement on how I called attention to that section. As for the rest of the post, Lannie, I did not come up with this hypothetical situation of Nick Chavez making a negative remark about Chaz Dean's products. The information came from this thread and I was simply giving people another aspect to look at the situation from, which was a business standpoint. If you do not wish to see it from that standpoint then don't. I am getting the feeling you have no interest in the business side of this. If you are so determined to stop whatever rumor I am spreading or speculating on the events that took place, you better start much further back just in this thread alone. Without reading this thread I would not have had the information to give any perspective on it from a business standpoint. You twisted my post into something it was not and you chose or just do not want to see the issue from any other perspective but your own. I am fine with that, but don't ever accuse me of being negative or being dishonest again just because you can only see something from one viewpoint. I was neither of those things and certainly was not making wild accusations or spreading around anything that I said was an absolute certainty regarding Nick Chavez or Chaz Dean. I will say that it is a fact you won't see a WEN model demonstrating any other hair care products or styling tools other than for WEN as long as they are modeling for Chaz Dean. I am done with this conversation. You can see my posts however you like, I honestly could care less at this point as you have clearly made up your mind on what was and was not said or done. But do not accuse me of being or doing something I am not.

[UMDTerpFan]

On 3/23/2015 bruingirl said:

On 3/23/2015 UMDTerpFan said:

On 3/23/2015 bruingirl said:

On 3/22/2015 NC Bandwagon said:

Hello, NJ4Jays.

I don't think the Nick gets to choose which models to use his product on. I think Nick and Chaz probably know that the QVC models like to use lots of different products on their hair. And I don't think they mind. Perhaps it's all just a friendly competition between the two. They both know that they're on QVC to sell their product.

wen models only model for wen....you won't see any of the wen models modeling for another hair vendor unless they are no longer wen models

bruingirl, am I remembering correctly that you are now or were a WEN model? Just curious as I thought you'd mentioned that in a post a couple of years ago. If so, you are the definitive knowledgeable person to the question of whether models work with different hair vendors or not.

no, I'm not and never was a wen model. I am a friend and client of Chaz Dean Studio…I have been for several years and being a client I'm a test subject on new stuff which I love….and I give my feedback too. Hope this helps

Thanks bruingirl for the clarification. Being a test subject must be interesting!

[Karotsy]

Not to change the subject but I at times I notice Mally throws jabs at other cosmetic brands. I hope she does not do it to discourage the viewer and for the viewer to go with Mally's brand. I especially have noticed most of the jabs go to Bobbi Brown.