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I can't keep track. I know the CCs formula is very important. Also that a number of products the only difference is the scent. Which wen products have formulas that matter? Which products are universal?
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Re: When does formula matter?

If you go to the WEN page. Right at the top with a picture of the gallon is a link to compare formulas.
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Individual results vary so much. The "official" word is that formulas matter for CCs and styling cremes...they don't matter for RTMs (Replenishing Treatment Mists), ReMoists, or Texture Balms. I don't have any experience with Volumizing Treatment Mists (VTMs) or various Mousses, so maybe someone else will weigh in. I think all the VTMs are supposed to be the same, as well as all the Mousses other than 613. But I'm not sure.
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I put this together a while back. It's in post #3 of the Wen 101 thread. I think the information may help answer your question (though probably not completely) -- bebe Smile

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SCENTS USED FOR SPECIFIC REASONS

* SAM/POM/TT/BGT - considered universals (i.e. for everyone) -- BGT, some people find too drying -- SAM, the first CC Chaz created, is sometimes too heavy for thin/fine hair.

* FIG - most moisturizing (sometimes too heavy for thin/fine hair)

* CA - most clarifying/astringent (some people find it too drying)

* LAV - for volume, if you have a lot of hair (sometimes the witch hazel makes it too drying for not a lot of thin/fine hair)

* TT - maybe for some volume, if you have thin/fine hair.

* TT - normalizes an oily scalp by rebalancing sebum production (results take a few months). Also, as an anti-fungal, tea tree oil helps get rid of excessive fungal growth which can cause dandruff.

* 613, BGT & all Seasonals - add amino acids (e.g. protein) and additional skin care ingredients to your hair. 613 is the most concentrated. -- If you already have a healthy head of hair or if you have thick/coarse hair, then use 613 sparingly at first (for some in these two categories, it can make your hair feel like straw or even cause your hair to get brittle and break). Your hair is made of protein. Depending on your hair type, too much protein may not be a good thing (but generally it's great for thin, fine, damaged hair).

* Kids formulas (Apple, Watermelon, & Strawberry-Banana) - gentlest for the hair and scalp (rice based / no menthol)

* for those with allergies - cleansing conditioners -- wheat allergies: soy-based (POM, 613 & Seasonals) or rice-based (Kids formulas & BGT) formulas -- soy allergies: rice-based (Kids formulas & BGT) -- nut allergies: soy-based (613), rice-based (Kids formulas & BGT).

* for those with nut allergies - product lines (per Chaz Dean's Salon on 3/25/14) -- 613 products: CC, SC, RTM & mousse. ---- some POM products:SC, GS, & Re-Moist are nut-free. -- Sweet almond oil (nut-based) is in the POM CC, RTM, BCC, & BL. -- Sweet almond fruit (nut-based?) is in the mousse and finishing creme. -- POM Treatment Oil (forgot to ask). -- to be safe, read the ingredients listings.

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The formulas that matter for my course thick hair are Fig for moisture, 613 and BGT for protein and TT for a healthy scalp and hair growth. Those are the main ones in my regimen.

I use LAV when I want volume. I use it infrequently, because my hair is already thick. If I use it too often, I'll look like a poodle.

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I don't think the OP is asking what the formula differences are. She's asking which products differ by/are targeted to certain hair needs (like the CC formulas are), and which ones only vary by scent. Like someone who uses Fig CC for moisture would probably have hair that responds best to Fig SC because it's heavier and for coarser/thicker hair, but they could use whatever scent of RTM, ReMoist, or Texture Balm they wanted based on which smells the best to them, because they are all designed to perform the same no matter what hair type the user has.

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On 5/30/2014 WenGirl42 said:

I don't think the OP is asking what the formula differences are. She's asking which products differ by/are targeted to certain hair needs (like the CC formulas are), and which ones only vary by scent. Like someone who uses Fig CC for moisture would probably have hair that responds best to Fig SC because it's heavier and for coarser/thicker hair, but they could use whatever scent of RTM, ReMoist, or Texture Balm they wanted based on which smells the best to them, because they are all designed to perform the same no matter what hair type the user has.

Re-moist, doesn't seem to matter. Nor, RTM's.

Oils are basically the same BUT, I think the differences will make an ultimate difference for your hair IF you are having a SPECIFIC problem. Otherwise, it won't be that much because they are all basically the same. For example, TT is great for scalp problems, anti-fungal(which may help alopecia caused by Tinea Capitus) and itching.

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On 5/30/2014 DrCEB said:
On 5/30/2014 WenGirl42 said:

I don't think the OP is asking what the formula differences are. She's asking which products differ by/are targeted to certain hair needs (like the CC formulas are), and which ones only vary by scent. Like someone who uses Fig CC for moisture would probably have hair that responds best to Fig SC because it's heavier and for coarser/thicker hair, but they could use whatever scent of RTM, ReMoist, or Texture Balm they wanted based on which smells the best to them, because they are all designed to perform the same no matter what hair type the user has.

Re-moist, doesn't seem to matter. Nor, RTM's.

Oils are basically the same BUT, I think the differences will make an ultimate difference for your hair IF you are having a SPECIFIC problem. Otherwise, it won't be that much because they are all basically the same. For example, TT is great for scalp problems, anti-fungal(which may help alopecia caused by Tinea Capitus) and itching.


I agree with you on the Oils, and left them out of both of my replies because I didn't want to get too complicated {#emotions_dlg.laugh} The oils aren't designed for specific hair types like the CCs are, and I use them interchangeably as pre-cleanse treatments and mixed with my leave-in. I have...a bunch of the oil scents {#emotions_dlg.blush} But there are certain essential oil properties that can make them useful for different things. TT is an excellent example, as you say. People also attribute hair growth/thickening to that one (probably related to the scalp health benefits). Another example is Lavender, which is very calming. It is a wonderful aromatherapy experience sleeping with that in my hair (as opposed to the SAM oil, the scent of which is too invigorating and interferes with my sleep).

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You are right WenGirl42! With all the shows this month I know I will be buying a lot and I like some scents better than others. Unfortunately it doesn't always correspond with which CC is best for my hair. To recap: CC and SC matter, oil is universal but could be chosen based on essential oil functions. Is everything else fair game? You mentioned the RTM, remoist, and texture balm. How about Mousse, VTS, GS, FTC? I would guess scent only since they aren't available in all scents. Does it matter at all for skincare:BCC or the lotion?
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Formula Definitely matters for me....I have lots of sensitivities and allergies. I use BGT daily, including on my scalp, without issues. I can also use the kids, but I only have apple in it and it's not my fave. I like it ok, but it's not BGT if that makes sense. Seasonals and POM I can use on my ends, and I can use POM remoist also. Some seasonals bother me, like WCM I've found, but most are ok. All the other Core ones I can't use. If it weren't for BGT I'd not be able to use Wen like I can now. When he calls it Wen Sensitive he's not kidding!!!