Beauty

[Trinity11]

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@kcladyzwrote:

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@Trinity11wrote:

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@bargainsgirlwrote:

I just wondered how they proved WEN caused the hair loss?

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I would think it is very difficult to prove. I just threw out a Redken shampoo that was supposed to clarify the hair. I used it a couple of times and broke out on my scalp. It was very uncomfortable and my dermatologist did a sensitivity test. Apparently, I was just allergic. I did use Wen and had no issues with it.

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Easy. If you lose a ton of hair  when you start WEN and then the loss stops when you leave WEN then its kinda obvious.  But then again some people have  worse allergies to certain ingredients I am sure  thats why many do not have issues

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Systemic illnesses may coincidentally happen at the same time and resolve at the same time when the consumer stopped using Wen. I still wonder if there are some grossly exaggerated stories of Wen use. It sounded like a run away train when the complaints started coming in. No doubt many were legitimate but not all. 

[111380]

Im no expert by any means.But I did do alot of research on the ingredients in WEN and found that Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone,which are in most WEN (except 319) are pretty bad,especially when used together.They are perservatives and are rated as moderate to highly toxic according to ewg.org/skindeep website.Also Amodimethicone,Trimethylsilylamodimethicone,which are in all WEN cleansing conditions,are silocones,which can clog hair folicles over time..So maybe thats the cause?I cant say.But other than those ingredients,WEN is packed full of pretty good stuff.

Also a dermotologist issued a statement on the recent WEN payout and deemed it to be "heard mentality" and stated nothing in WEN should cause hair loss.Her words,not mine

[smb3]

I read a lot about the hundreds of women who suffered hair loss and bad reactions.  I tried it a few years ago and broke out in severe hives.  I often wondered why QVC would continue to sell his product after lawsuits, complaints, etc.  

[OooLaLa]

Re: Wen Class Action settlement [ New ] 

‎04-22-2018 05:09 AM  

111380  Im no expert by any means.But I did do alot of research on the ingredients in WEN and found that Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone,which are in most WEN (except 319) are pretty bad,especially when used together.They are perservatives and are rated as moderate to highly toxic according to ewg.org/skindeep website.Also Amodimethicone,Trimethylsilylamodimethicone,which are in all WEN cleansing conditions,are silocones,which can clog hair folicles over time..So maybe thats the cause?I cant say.But other than those ingredients,WEN is packed full of pretty good stuff.

Also a dermotologist issued a statement on the recent WEN payout and deemed it to be "heard mentality" and stated nothing in WEN should cause hair loss.Her words,not mine

@111380 Thank you.  I think you nailed it with the chemical info. I am horribly allergic to methylisothiazolinone, and it took me nearly a year, after several trips to two physicians (one a derm), to figure it out, thanks to my  internet searches. Had to take steroids and antihistamines, which aren't healthy, to have just a bit of relief from the hives, itching, misery and temporary disfigurement during which I didn't leave my home.  It wasn't only in my WEN products, it was in many things, including laundry and household products.  And no, I was NOT a part of the lawsuit.  I can say that what I spent on Wen, doctors' bills after deductible and prescriptions far exceeds $25.

Frankly, money couldn't give me back the portion of my life that the MI poison took, and I tried to move on and not waste more of it. The allergic reaction began after I had been using ONLY Wen on my hair for several weeks. At first, it didn't occur to me that Wen was causing it because during the sales pitches, we were told that "ordinary shampoo" was detrimental and that using Wen was the best hair product available.  I began shedding heavily, and my scalp became itchy.  After a couple of weeks, it occurred to me to search online for Wen/allergy/hair loss -- and there it was.  I immediately stopped using it, and the shedding soon stopped. I was advised by more than one hairdresser that my follicles probably had gotten clogged, as far as the shedding.  For those who mention a patch test, this allergy doesn't happen the first time you use a product.  It happens after repeated use over time.  Follicles don't clog after using a product once, and sensitivity builds up. At that point, I just knew I generally was allergic to Wen, but didn't know which specific ingredient(s).  

I have no agenda here and bear no grudge.  Everybody has the freedom to use what they want, but everybody should be informed as to what is in products they spend their money on and apply to their bodies.

Those who are fortunate enough not to have had allergic reactions and enjoy the products, please realize that you are, indeed, more fortunate than the rest of us.

Perhaps the lawsuit should have been against the manufacturers of methylisothiazolinone, as well.

[OooLaLa]

111380  Im no expert by any means.But I did do alot of research on the ingredients in WEN and found that Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone,which are in most WEN (except 319) are pretty bad,especially when used together.They are perservatives and are rated as moderate to highly toxic according to ewg.org/skindeep website.Also Amodimethicone,Trimethylsilylamodimethicone,which are in all WEN cleansing conditions,are silocones,which can clog hair folicles over time..So maybe thats the cause?I cant say.But other than those ingredients,WEN is packed full of pretty good stuff.

Also a dermotologist issued a statement on the recent WEN payout and deemed it to be "heard mentality" and stated nothing in WEN should cause hair loss.Her words,not mine

@111380 Thank you.  I think you nailed it with the chemical info. I am horribly allergic to methylisothiazolinone, and it took me nearly a year, after several trips to two physicians (one a derm), to figure it out, thanks to my  internet searches. Had to take steroids and antihistamines, which aren't healthy, to have just a bit of relief from the hives, itching, misery and temporary disfigurement during which I didn't leave my home.  It wasn't only in my WEN products, it was in many things, including laundry and household products.  And no, I was NOT a part of the lawsuit.  I can say that what I spent on Wen, doctors' bills after deductible and prescriptions far exceeds $25.

Frankly, money couldn't give me back the portion of my life that the MI poison took, and I tried to move on and not waste more of it. The allergic reaction began after I had been using ONLY Wen on my hair for several weeks. At first, it didn't occur to me that Wen was causing it because during the sales pitches, we were told that "ordinary shampoo" was detrimental and that using Wen was the best hair product available.  I began shedding heavily, and my scalp became itchy.  After a couple of weeks, it occurred to me to search online for Wen/allergy/hair loss -- and there it was.  I immediately stopped using it, and the shedding soon stopped. I was advised by more than one hairdresser that my follicles probably had gotten clogged, as far as the shedding.  For those who mention a patch test, this allergy doesn't happen the first time you use a product.  It happens after repeated use over time.  Follicles don't clog after using a product once, and sensitivity builds up. At that point, I just knew I generally was allergic to Wen, but didn't know which specific ingredient(s).  

I have no agenda here and bear no grudge.  Everybody has the freedom to use what they want, but everybody should be informed as to what is in products they spend their money on and apply to their bodies.

Those who are fortunate enough not to have had allergic reactions and enjoy the products, please realize that you are, indeed, more fortunate than the rest of us.

Perhaps the lawsuit should have been against the manufacturers of methylisothiazolinone, as well.

[Porcelain]

Most people don't know that all ingredients are potentially sensitizing. Anyone can develop an allergy or have an accute reaction to any ingredient at any time. And the results of that reaction can look and feel earth shatteringly horrible. I've experienced it too. The suffering is real and shouldn't be downplayed.

One reason major brands like Loreal or Johnson and Johnson produce such bland products with hardly any active ingredients in them is because: so many people all over the world use their products, that it is inevitable that some of those people will have reactions to some of the ingredients. The company can hedge their bets by using the most inert ingredients possible, but they have no way to know which chemicals will create the inevitable bad effects for a portion of their customers.

I think Wen is a very active-packed selection of products. And the company has grown so large, that this was bound to happen. It's really sad, because the best brands that actually try to create strong products that DO what they say they will do, will have serious trouble once they get popular enough.

Also, parabens, even with their sketchy reputation, are still low risk for dermatitis and allergy reactions. Because ingredient-aware consumers don't want parabens in their products, cosmetics manufacturers have to turn to preservatives that are riskier for short term reactions. For Wen, they need to use large amounts of these strong preservatives to preserve extremely perishable botanical extracts and oils in GALLON formats along with extremely long shelf life promises. Creating a recipe for problems.

[I like celery]

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@OooLaLa wrote:

Re: Wen Class Action settlement [ New ] 

‎04-22-2018 05:09 AM

Im no expert by any means.But I did do alot of research on the ingredients in WEN and found that Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone,which are in most WEN (except 319) are pretty bad,especially when used together.They are perservatives and are rated as moderate to highly toxic according to ewg.org/skindeep website.Also Amodimethicone,Trimethylsilylamodimethicone,which are in all WEN cleansing conditions,are silocones,which can clog hair folicles over time..So maybe thats the cause?I cant say.But other than those ingredients,WEN is packed full of pretty good stuff.

Also a dermotologist issued a statement on the recent WEN payout and deemed it to be "heard mentality" and stated nothing in WEN should cause hair loss.Her words,not mine

@111380 Thank you.  I think you nailed it with the chemical info. I am horribly allergic to methylisothiazolinone, and it took me nearly a year, after several trips to two physicians (one a derm), to figure it out, thanks to my  internet searches. Had to take steroids and antihistamines, which aren't healthy, to have just a bit of relief from the hives, itching, misery and temporary disfigurement during which I didn't leave my home.  It wasn't only in my WEN products, it was in many things, including laundry and household products.  And no, I was NOT a part of the lawsuit.  I can say that what I spent on Wen, doctors' bills after deductible and prescriptions far exceeds $25.

Frankly, money couldn't give me back the portion of my life that the MI poison took, and I tried to move on and not waste more of it. The allergic reaction began after I had been using ONLY Wen on my hair for several weeks. At first, it didn't occur to me that Wen was causing it because during the sales pitches, we were told that "ordinary shampoo" was detrimental and that using Wen was the best hair product available.  I began shedding heavily, and my scalp became itchy.  After a couple of weeks, it occurred to me to search online for Wen/allergy/hair loss -- and there it was.  I immediately stopped using it, and the shedding soon stopped. I was advised by more than one hairdresser that my follicles probably had gotten clogged, as far as the shedding.  For those who mention a patch test, this allergy doesn't happen the first time you use a product.  It happens after repeated use over time.  Follicles don't clog after using a product once, and sensitivity builds up. At that point, I just knew I generally was allergic to Wen, but didn't know which specific ingredient(s).  

I have no agenda here and bear no grudge.  Everybody has the freedom to use what they want, but everybody should be informed as to what is in products they spend their money on and apply to their bodies.

Those who are fortunate enough not to have had allergic reactions and enjoy the products, please realize that you are, indeed, more fortunate than the rest of us.

Perhaps the lawsuit should have been against the manufacturers of methylisothiazolinone, as well.

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@OooLaLa @111380  I've never used WEN, but I just wanted to mention I, too, am someone who experienced a horrible reaction to methylisothiazolinone.  The laundry detergent I was using at the time had changed their ingredient deck, and as with most people, I was unaware of the change.  As a result, I experienced the most painful "angry" rash.  Fortunately, I only had to deal with it for a couple of weeks (even though it took about another month to fully heal, after I stopped using the detergent).  I somehow found out early on in my internet search that this detergent had recently made a change.  Others weren't so lucky.  I saw pics of sweet little crying babies with bright red rashes all over their tiny little bodies, and felt awful for their guilt ridden parents, who were also unaware of the ingredient deck changing.  I had never heard of methylisothiazolinone before my experience, and was stunned at the articles I read afterwards.  

[I like celery]

Im no expert by any means.But I did do alot of research on the ingredients in WEN and found that Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone,which are in most WEN (except 319) are pretty bad,especially when used together.They are perservatives and are rated as moderate to highly toxic according to ewg.org/skindeep website.Also Amodimethicone,Trimethylsilylamodimethicone,which are in all WEN cleansing conditions,are silocones,which can clog hair folicles over time..So maybe thats the cause?I cant say.But other than those ingredients,WEN is packed full of pretty good stuff.

Also a dermotologist issued a statement on the recent WEN payout and deemed it to be "heard mentality" and stated nothing in WEN should cause hair loss.Her words,not mine

@111380 Thank you.  I think you nailed it with the chemical info. I am horribly allergic to methylisothiazolinone, and it took me nearly a year, after several trips to two physicians (one a derm), to figure it out, thanks to my  internet searches. Had to take steroids and antihistamines, which aren't healthy, to have just a bit of relief from the hives, itching, misery and temporary disfigurement during which I didn't leave my home.  It wasn't only in my WEN products, it was in many things, including laundry and household products.  And no, I was NOT a part of the lawsuit.  I can say that what I spent on Wen, doctors' bills after deductible and prescriptions far exceeds $25.

Frankly, money couldn't give me back the portion of my life that the MI poison took, and I tried to move on and not waste more of it. The allergic reaction began after I had been using ONLY Wen on my hair for several weeks. At first, it didn't occur to me that Wen was causing it because during the sales pitches, we were told that "ordinary shampoo" was detrimental and that using Wen was the best hair product available.  I began shedding heavily, and my scalp became itchy.  After a couple of weeks, it occurred to me to search online for Wen/allergy/hair loss -- and there it was.  I immediately stopped using it, and the shedding soon stopped. I was advised by more than one hairdresser that my follicles probably had gotten clogged, as far as the shedding.  For those who mention a patch test, this allergy doesn't happen the first time you use a product.  It happens after repeated use over time.  Follicles don't clog after using a product once, and sensitivity builds up. At that point, I just knew I generally was allergic to Wen, but didn't know which specific ingredient(s).  

I have no agenda here and bear no grudge.  Everybody has the freedom to use what they want, but everybody should be informed as to what is in products they spend their money on and apply to their bodies.

Those who are fortunate enough not to have had allergic reactions and enjoy the products, please realize that you are, indeed, more fortunate than the rest of us.

Perhaps the lawsuit should have been against the manufacturers of methylisothiazolinone, as well.

[OooLaLa]

@I like celery Methylisothiazolinone used to be an ingredient in certain baby wipes and later was removed.  I've read information that it kills cells, which can't be anything but harmful for babies - or anybody. It's banned in some European countries for "leave-on" products."  I know parabens are considered to be bad, but I never had a skin issue from them. And I thoroughly rinse my hair and scalp.

I'm sorry that you were yet another victim, but glad you were able to find the cause fairly early on.  I was totally clueless for quite a while and was continuing to use other MI products, until I had a severe reaction on my face and hands and eventually realized the common denominator.