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01-27-2014 10:41 AM
On 1/23/2014 BE4Me said:I want to like this product! My hair is so soft and wonderful with it, but I still have to wash everyday. I'd say the lack of whatever strips color from your hair is doing its job, but I've still heard that water is the enemy of color.
When I was using regular shampoo, I could go at least 2 days without a shampoo, but with WEN it's greasy the next day.
I have a brunette, fine, color-treated hair in an angled bob. I am 47 and just started using permanent color, just for the benefit that WEN can give me.
I am not too concerned with the cost, if it means I can go without washing at least a day in between and if it cuts down on in-between-color time.
Any suggestions? I am partial to the lavender. I like a tea tree mixed in every now and then. Pomegranate is good, too. Using Winter Vanilla Mint and Lavender, (not together) right now.
Thanks so much!
Hi and welcome. Chaz recommends that you use WEN daily until your hair and scalp adjusts to it, this is in the FAQ on the product page and he mentions it as well. I wish we could put up a sticky with this kind of information. I have posted the FAQ from his salon site as well - will try to look it up and repost on this thread.
01-27-2014 10:53 AM
these are reposted tips form https://chazdean.com
#7 addresses daily cleansing for newbees:
I think this FAQ is ever more informative - copied and pasted from Chaz's site;
1. What is WEN®?
WEN® is a revolutionary new concept in cleansing your hair that has Hollywood buzzing. It was developed as a healthy alternative to the way people are used to cleansing their hair; eliminating the use of shampoo and its harsh detergents and chemicals. WEN® Cleansing Conditioners replace shampoo, conditioner, deep conditioner, detangler and leave-in conditioner, giving you five products in one bottle.
2. Will WEN® really get my hair clean? Won’t I need shampoo?
WEN® uses a combination of natural extracts and botanicals to hydrate and cleanse your hair without the use of harsh detergents and chemicals. The perfect mixture and blend of its ingredients leave your hair healthy, moisturized, and cleansed. Once you start to use our products exclusively, you will never have to use shampoo ever again. In fact, you won’t even want to.
3. Which WEN® should I get?
You really can't go wrong no matter which one you try. They are all designed to be used with colored or natural hair, and we like to say that all hair types will benefit from all of the Cleansing Conditioners. That said, the different formulas were developed for different reasons:
Sweet Almond Mint: The original formula. This is the one you get if you don't know where to start. It is a universal formula that will benefit all hair types from the finest, most brittle hair, to the thickest, curliest hair types.
Tea Tree: Designed originally for thicker hair, it will hydrate even the coarsest hair types. However, the benefits of Tea Tree are also great for thinning hair and scalp issues like redness or flakiness.
Fig: Think moisture, this is our most hydrating formulation. Great for thick, curly hair as well as dry, dehydrated, over-processed hair.
Cucumber Aloe: Our lightest weight formula. Cucumber Aloe is great for fine hair as well as those with oily scalps.
Lavender: Our volumizing Cleansing Conditioner. Lavender offers hydration without weighing the hair down. If you need volume and body, this is the one for you.
Pomegranate: The newest edition to the line, Pomegranate is universal for all hair types. Unlike the others, Pomegranate uses soy protein instead of wheat, so if you have a wheat allergy this one is perfect for you.
4. What is the difference between shampoo and WEN® Cleansing Conditioners?
First of all, WEN® cleanses the hair without harsh detergents or chemicals, leaving your hair clean and hydrated without stripping or lather. Since WEN® does not have any sodium laurel/laureth sulfates, it does not strip your color or your natural oils. This means, color will stay vibrant longer and you won’t be damaging your hair or scalp.
5. How do you use the WEN® Cleansing Conditioners?
Rinse hair thoroughly, apply WEN® into your palms and rub together. Use 10-16 pumps for short hair, 16-24 pumps for medium length hair and 24-32 pumps for long hair. If your hair is longer/thicker you may need to increase the amount of pumps. Apply to scalp and hair, adding a splash of water to evenly distribute. WEN® has no harsh detergents or sodium lauryl sulfate, so it won't lather. Massage thoroughly into hair and leave on for the remainder of your shower. Rinse thoroughly and completely, massaging scalp and running fingers through to the ends. Apply 1/2 to 1 pump depending on hair length and texture as a leave-in conditioner to soaking wet hair. For best results we highly suggest you cleanse, rinse and repeat, using half the recommended pumps for the first cleanse, and the remaining half for the second cleanse. Unlike many ordinary shampoos, you may find you don't need to cleanse as often.
Above direction are for 6oz/16oz bottles, refer to label directions for other size bottles.
Immediately after, add 1-3 pumps of the Styling Creme of your choice to soaking wet hair starting at the back of the head and working thought to the ends.
Let hair dry naturally, style or wrap a towel around your head to absorb moisture. Do not abrasively dry your head with a towel as this will stress the hair and cause it to frizz.
Additional Suggestions
You can cleanse daily but when used properly you should only have to cleanse every 2-3 days. Our 16oz size may last you up to 6 weeks.
For extra hydrating and conditioning, you can use the Cleansing Conditioner as an overnight deep hydrating mask treatment. Simply leave on the hair after you have cleansed, cover hair with a shower cap or plastic bag overnight, and rinse out thoroughly in the morning.
6. My hair looks greasy and/or weighed down. I tried using less of the product and it has not helped. What is wrong?
One of the most common misconceptions about the WEN® product line is that it works like a shampoo. Meaning, the more you use, the greasier your hair will end up. This couldn’t be further from the truth! In fact, if you aren’t using enough of the Cleansing Conditioner, it won’t be able to clean your hair. The correct number of pumps varies depending on a number of traits: length, texture, etc. If you want to be safe, the more you use of WEN®, the better.
7. How many times a week should I use WEN®? Will it damage my hair if I wash it every day?
The more you use WEN®, the better! You can use it every day, twice a day, and it will simply hydrate and moisturize your hair. In fact, we generally suggest that when you first start out with our product you use it every day. This will help to heal and re-hydrate the damage that shampoo (among many other things) has caused. As you continue to use our products, you will find that you no longer have to cleanse as often.
8. How do I use WEN® as an overnight treatment?
In order to use WEN® as an overnight treatment, you will need to get in the shower and cleanse like you normally do. After you are done thoroughly rinsing out the product, re-apply with half the number of pumps (or more for added benefits). Splash with water, massage vigorously, and comb through with a wide-tooth comb. Now, either wrap your head in a towel or wear a shower cap, and leave on for as long as possible! Ideally, overnight. But even fifteen to twenty minutes will benefit you tremendously. Rinse out thoroughly and apply leave-in like you normally do.
9. When am I supposed to use the WEN® Oils?
The oils are very multi-purposed. You can use them after your hair has dried by simply adding 1-2 drops into the palm of your hand and running them through your ends, just for added moisture. You can also use them to tame frizz in the same fashion (a few drops into your palms which you then run over the problem areas). The WEN® Oils give extra shine and moisture to dry hair. If you add a few drops of the oil into your leave-in, you can also help to eliminate frizz that way. If you have a dry, itchy, or flaky scalp, we suggest sleeping with the Tea Tree Oil on your scalp overnight so that it works as a treatment. You can also apply Oil to your ends in the meanwhile, so that it works as a hydration mask. Apply 4-6 dropper-fulls of the Tea Tree Oil directly to your scalp and massage vigorously. Then, apply 4-6 dropper-fulls into your palm to apply to your ends. Sleep with this in (it’s not messy so it won’t get on your pillows or sheets), and cleanse out in the morning. Since the Tea Tree Oil is so invigorating and medicinal, it will help promote hair growth and help heal any scalp issues you may experience. The Sweet Almond Mint, Fig, Cucumber Aloe, and Lavender Oils are great for moisture, shine and promoting healthy hair growth. WEN Oils can also be added to your bathwater to moisturize your skin, and create an inviting aromatherapy experience. Applied to the body after showering, prior to towel drying, WEN Oils will leave your skin soft, supple, and hydrated. WEN Oils are also excellent used as massage oils.
10. When I get to the bottom of the bottle, the pump seems to stop working. How do I fix this?
We suggest adding some distilled or bottled water and shake to mix thoroughly. Use a couple of extra pumps to make up for the slight dilution of the cleanser.
11. How do I open a wholesale account? Where else can I purchase your products?
At this time the only places you are able to purchase the WEN® product line is on our website (www.chazdean.com), through QVC, through Guthy Renker via the WEN® infomercial or wenhaircare.com and at our salon in Hollywood, CA.
01-27-2014 10:29 PM
On 1/26/2014 FinnyMinny said:On 1/26/2014 pas4116 said:On 1/22/2014 Danae24 said:Okay---come closer...because I am only going to write this once...a day.
I can't use the core scents---I get much better results with the seasonals mixed with a bit of 613. BE SURE TO WET HAIR thoroughly before beginning. WET. REALLY WET! Mix your pumps in your hand, massage into your hair well, then step under shower again and add more water. Massage the froth into your hiar well, and leave in for two minutes while you finish showering. BE SURE YOU USE ENOUGH WEN---don't worry, you probably won't have to cleanse as often. After two mnutes RINSE LIKE CRAZY---use the hand held shower head if you have one. Good water pressure is a must.
I never cleanse twice, never leave a leave in pump of CC. I do add one pump of styling cream to my wet hair and comb through with wide tooth comb. Hair looks great.
Can't use anything with significant menthol. The seasonals, 613 and the Bamboo work best for me. Did not like WEN at first when I tried the lavendar, the SAM---just did not work for me. i have long fine hair.
I have tried every variety of WEN ( Started when a friend gave me a sampler set). My hair is shoulder length, not colored, straight. I have tried following all the various methods, and use the recommended amount. The first time, my hair looks great, thick and lots of body. The second wash, there is product buildup, no matter how long I rinse, and if I use Wen for a third time, the product buildup is so bad my hair looks limp and gummy. It simply will not rinse out.
The styling cream does the same thing- can't use that at all. I wish I could figure out how people use Wen exclusively.
Do you add plenty of splashes of water to get it frothy as you massage it in?
Yes, have added plenty of water. I've been using WEN off and on for a couple of years. My impression (which may be wrong) is the product is not water soluible and that it does not rinse off. At least, I've never been able to get it rinsed out. After the first use, the thin coating on the hair is what gives it body. But after 2+ uses, the buildup is too much and weighs down the hair. I have to use regular shampoo to get it off, and my hair looks so much better afterwards.
01-28-2014 01:13 AM
On 1/27/2014 pas4116 said:Do you do the cleanse, rinse, and repeat method? Are you using a leave in of cc? If so, how much? Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to help.On 1/26/2014 FinnyMinny said:On 1/26/2014 pas4116 said:On 1/22/2014 Danae24 said:Okay---come closer...because I am only going to write this once...a day.
I can't use the core scents---I get much better results with the seasonals mixed with a bit of 613. BE SURE TO WET HAIR thoroughly before beginning. WET. REALLY WET! Mix your pumps in your hand, massage into your hair well, then step under shower again and add more water. Massage the froth into your hiar well, and leave in for two minutes while you finish showering. BE SURE YOU USE ENOUGH WEN---don't worry, you probably won't have to cleanse as often. After two mnutes RINSE LIKE CRAZY---use the hand held shower head if you have one. Good water pressure is a must.
I never cleanse twice, never leave a leave in pump of CC. I do add one pump of styling cream to my wet hair and comb through with wide tooth comb. Hair looks great.
Can't use anything with significant menthol. The seasonals, 613 and the Bamboo work best for me. Did not like WEN at first when I tried the lavendar, the SAM---just did not work for me. i have long fine hair.
I have tried every variety of WEN ( Started when a friend gave me a sampler set). My hair is shoulder length, not colored, straight. I have tried following all the various methods, and use the recommended amount. The first time, my hair looks great, thick and lots of body. The second wash, there is product buildup, no matter how long I rinse, and if I use Wen for a third time, the product buildup is so bad my hair looks limp and gummy. It simply will not rinse out.
The styling cream does the same thing- can't use that at all. I wish I could figure out how people use Wen exclusively.
Do you add plenty of splashes of water to get it frothy as you massage it in?
Yes, have added plenty of water. I've been using WEN off and on for a couple of years. My impression (which may be wrong) is the product is not water soluible and that it does not rinse off. At least, I've never been able to get it rinsed out. After the first use, the thin coating on the hair is what gives it body. But after 2+ uses, the buildup is too much and weighs down the hair. I have to use regular shampoo to get it off, and my hair looks so much better afterwards.
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