Beauty

[lgfan]

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@monicakm wrote:

@I am still oxox 

No one mentioned letting your hair go gray.  Her hair is not gray.  Look at the top of her head, it's all brown.  Those are likely highlights or she's growing them out.

I think women let their hair go gray either because they can't afford the maintenance, or don't want to do the maintenance or have physical issues that keep them from doing it.  I have more gray showing right now than I EVER have.  It's mostly on the left side and towards the front.  Hubby likes it.  It's not staying.  In fact, I may color my hair today while he's gone.  My hairdresser and I discussed this last week.  She said, "just know that if you do decide to go totally gray, it's going to make you look older...not bad, just older.  That's all I needed to hear! lol

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I cannot dye my hair because the color does not stick to my white hair.  I do not have gray hair.  It is coming out white and shiny.  People compliment my hair.  They think I put in highlights.  It has nothing to do with letting myself go.

[teganslaw]

Women are judged negatively for looking their age or older. It's a personal choice if someone wants to go gray, wear no makeup, etc. The problem is that others tend to look down on those who prefer the natural look. I guess empowerment for women doesn't apply like the internet says. 

It's easy for posters to say that they look half their age when they're behind a keyboard. It could be true or exaggeration, but shouldn't convince others so easily.

[foxywoods]

I guess I let myself go. haha.  I quit coloring my hair before Covid/. Made an exception for a wedding last spring and got a keratin and blonde highlights. 

Had to recently get a short cut; the chemicals fried my hair. Surprise! Love my shorter hair! It's wash & go and so much easier.

I don't care for the feel of foundation on my face. I wear mascara sometimes and shadow . I had eye lift surgery two years ago, so no more crepey eyelids. I wanted to be able to do eyeshadow and eye makeup but now it just too much of a pain to apply and remove. my littleist grandson loves his nana anyway even first thing AM when i have bed head and before my coffee.

I did a full face on Thanksgiving because some family members wore makeup. One girl is 25 and she looks like night and day with/without makeup. Stunning girl:  Lashes, smokey eye, foundation, Beach waves.  She's young and she looks instagram ready. I'm close to 70 so I couldn't wait to wash it off my face. It itches my skin and feels ooky

[Icegoddess]

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@on the bay wrote:

...and a lot of women "go gray" because they might actually like how their hair looks naturally-some are white, silvery platinum and very pretty!

When I was in college, I wanted my hair to look like my grandmother's-a beautiful silver white that she had since she was in her thirties. So I tried dying it that color with the help of a friend. It turned out orange lol!

Now I have that color naturally and was told by a hairdresser that women would pay to get that color. And a man at the gas station told me the other day that I have beautiful hair. 

So, you can't always say it's cause women have "let themselves go."

I really don't like that expression.

Not everyone is overly concerned with all of that.

But if enhancing everything you can is what makes you feel good about yourself, than that is what is important to you. Everyone is different.

You know that song-

"Everyone is beautiful, in their own way..."

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@on the bay I was at the hairdresser last Tuesday getting a perm.  Another lady was in getting her hair done and she had the most beautiful shade of gray hair I think I've ever seen.  So, you're correct, either you're lucky or you're not when it comes to the gray genes. 

In fact, after she left my hairdresser mentioned to the other hairdresser about how pretty her color was, and it was natural.  Even if you paid for it, it's doubtful that's the exact color you would get, and oh the maintenance of it.  Keeping hair gray or blonde takes more maintenance than covering gray, and it's more damaging.  

On top of that, adding color swells the hair shaft which gives you thicker hair.  My hairdresser said that once you start coloring, your hair craves color.  It'll always behave better right after you color it.  And that has been my experience.  It's a shame I color my hair in the afternoon into the evening.  Nobody gets to see it at it's absolute best.  

[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@monicakm wrote:

@I am still oxox 

No one mentioned letting your hair go gray.  Her hair is not gray.  Look at the top of her head, it's all brown.  Those are likely highlights or she's growing them out.

I think women let their hair go gray either because they can't afford the maintenance, or don't want to do the maintenance or have physical issues that keep them from doing it.  I have more gray showing right now than I EVER have.  It's mostly on the left side and towards the front.  Hubby likes it.  It's not staying.  In fact, I may color my hair today while he's gone.  My hairdresser and I discussed this last week.  She said, "just know that if you do decide to go totally gray, it's going to make you look older...not bad, just older.  That's all I needed to hear! lol

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That's not true for everyone and may not be for you. Also, consider the source - someone who makes money off of your regular business.

[Icegoddess]

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@beach-mom wrote:

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@FranandZoe wrote:

That first pic of her looks more like Courtney Love.  I'm sorry but I don't think she looks good let alone beautiful.

I've not had any Botox or fillers.  But I use retinol and other skin care products.  I started using "good" skin care in my 30s.   I can't see doing absolutely nothing. And I wear makeup daily.  I think I look good for 73.

Just thinking - I think so much has to do with genes too.  My Mom was 91 when she passed away - all she ever used was Oil of Olay. And she smoked her whole life.  She had lovely skin.  Some wrinkles but great for her age.

@FranandZoe - You could have been describing my mom! The sad thing is I didn't have her as long. She died early- and suddenly- from septic shock syndrome.

She smoked her whole life, from the time she was a teenager. My dad was anti-smoking, so she never smoked at home. And she looked a lot younger than she was. She loved makeup, but didn't cake it on, and people always said how pretty she was. The only thing she did was wash her face with the original pink Oil of Olay. 

She was a swimmer and just missed qualifying for the Olympics when she was young. So we spent a lot of time outside at pools in the summer. She never wore "suntan lotion" unless we were at the beach. Then she put it on once, but didn't reapply it. And I don't remember her ever having a sunburn! 

Until recently, the only skincare I used was sunscreen, every day, in or out, rain or shine. I just started using a serum and a day and night a few months ago 

Some of my friends have had work done. If I did anything I would try to get rid of my hooded eyes I inherited from my father. Of course his were "bedroom eyes"!  I have three  friends who have had eyelifts. Two of them are still having problems years later, and the third looks like she is always surprised. So I'm reluctant to do anything. I do have another friend who had it done discretely without telling anyone, and she looks great. She hasn't had any problems at all. 

So I will never say never, but I will say highly unlikely for me!  

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@beach-mom I've known people who have had that surgery done since it was affecting their vision and it looked very natural.  My husband even had it done as it was recommended by the plastic surgeon who was doing a correction on a stitch they did in the ER after a fall and breaking his nose.  The stitch was below his eye and pulled his lower lid down.  Even after the correction surgery, he had to spend time pushing that lid back up.  I guess that's kinda like the compression garments one might wear following lipo on the body.  

He did go through getting a recommendation from an ophthalmologist saying it was obstructing his vision or insurance wouldn't cover it.  

He's had skin cancer surgery on his face which left a scar so it's not like he had it done for vanity.  

[PJinIA]

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@PJinIA wrote:

I admire Linda Hamilton for being secure enough in her skin to post these pictures of herself with no make up knowing full well there will probably be a lot of unkind comments.  I'm always amused at the comments from other women on the internet who state, anonymously, from behind a computer screen how great they look, how they don't have wrinkles and EVERYONE comments on how they look 20 years younger than they really are and I'm not just talking about this forum.

Easy to say, I wish they would post their pictures  next to Linda's to show how a woman should look at 69!  Women are definitely women's worst enemies!!  

Maybe Linda's priorities are on things other than superficial beauty.  

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Linda is wearing makeup. 

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Ok, so I guess I should have stated she was secure enough in her own skin to post pictures of herself without any plastic, botox or fillers.  Just a picture of a woman aging naturally.  I bet she can still kick a**!

[Janey2]

I cannot stand that "virtue signaling" about no makeup,etc. do what you think makes you happy. I do not think Linda Hamilton looks good. She looks like she has not taken care of her skin, or maybe she has a medical problem. She looks her age, and that is ok for her

there is also nothing wrong with a little "help" to look and feel better.

i never saw anybody who looks good with gray hair. I think it definitely ages you. Find before and after pictures with gray and after coloring and you will see a major difference. If you do not care that is another story. Some do not care.

 White hair is something different. If you have the right coloring white hair can be attractive.

[SilleeMee]

The greatest anti-aging product EVER invented...hair coloring.

[monicakm]

@on the bay 

When the first thing so many notice is how someone looks...It would be nice for the first thing to notice might be the smile, or eyes, or how they treat and listen to others.

This speaks to what I have said many times about a "still photo".  IRL, there is movement, sound, conversation.  A lot more to take in and experience.  With a still photo, you have time to dissect it. 

My remark was that (at 66) I'm not to the point yet that I would want to do that and hope I have years left that I'm able to.