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‎01-18-2015 02:36 PM
On 1/18/2015 baker said:It's all about the money for CD and this PTR, if you think not, then you are not being realistic.
What does CD stand for?
‎01-18-2015 02:38 PM
On 1/18/2015 winamac1 said:On 1/17/2015 HappyDaze said:Yes, I saw him on another show a few weeks ago beaming about how one of his products flew off the shelf the day it debuted in China. He was so proud.
They all sell in China.
No, they all don't. And some that do still don't test because there are ways around the animal testing requirement in China but it is an expensive process and most companies don't want to put out that expensive as it is cheaper to just test on animals.
‎01-18-2015 05:34 PM
‎01-18-2015 05:45 PM
I was glad to see Lorraine modeling for him. I hadn't seen he in a long time.
‎01-18-2015 05:57 PM
On 1/18/2015 HappyDaze said:On 1/18/2015 winamac1 said:On 1/17/2015 HappyDaze said:Yes, I saw him on another show a few weeks ago beaming about how one of his products flew off the shelf the day it debuted in China. He was so proud.
They all sell in China.
No, they all don't. And some that do still don't test because there are ways around the animal testing requirement in China but it is an expensive process and most companies don't want to put out that expensive as it is cheaper to just test on animals.
most do
‎01-18-2015 06:09 PM
I always try to avoid anything "made in china". Bully sticks (for dogs) have become so expensive, I've been buying the cheaper ones "made in china" and believe me, I been feeling guilty every time my pooch chows down on one. (She loves bully sticks.) Friday nite, I slipped, and bought some "other" treats for my dog, also "made in china". Early Saturday morning, I had to run errands -- with doggie in tow, who proceeded to puke up the treats (made in china) she'd eaten the nite before. In the trash they went!
‎01-18-2015 06:13 PM
On 1/17/2015 Lovely2 said:It's bad enough that he is not cruelty free, but he has guts talking about being in China. China is the reason he is not.
If cruelty free is not important to you, please ignore this.
I don't know anyone who brags about getting anything from China (especially shoes! one season of wear and they're done!). Someone should tell PTR, for most people "in-the-know", "China" is the kiss of death. I may slip up every once in while and get my dog "treats" made in China because I have no choice, but otherwise, forget it!
‎01-18-2015 06:17 PM
On 1/18/2015 Shelbelle said:His products are full of chemicals and artificial colors etc, been turned off lately.
I noticed that too. But they sure work well! 
‎01-18-2015 06:23 PM
On 1/17/2015 Lovely2 said:Yes he was-the packing use to have the "cruelty free" phrase on it but has since been removed since his decision to sell in China.I'm not sure he was ever cruelty free, but I know for sure he isn't now. I use to buy from him. Not any more.
‎01-18-2015 06:27 PM
Are you aware ... from June 2014:
China has removed a controversial animal test requirement for some types of cosmetics, a move praised by animal rights advocates who hope it signals an end to a practice widely scorned elsewhere.
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