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@Zita wrote:

I have had lots of skin cancers and must use a sunblock winter and summer. I think most dermatologists say you must use a sunscreen in addition to any in primers or makeup. The latter just don't offer enough protection.


Agree @Zita Ty for posting. AND also one must use enough.

I see people on some of Q's shows and on HSN and they use a dab..it has to be enough and the best is mineral sunblock with zinc a % of 7% or higher.

I use a few but so thrilled about s bought a new one that was on sale at dermstore by Epionce a line I'm not familar with  but good reviews and it doesn't leave a masky white face. Love it! I add a hydrating primer and over that since my skin is dry. My foundation looks just right! I also liek supergoop mineral type - but it lends a bit more of a cast. still a good one! Epionce was very good price $21.00 for a 2.oz. tube on sale Smiley Happy .

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@mimi5775 wrote:

@Zita wrote:

I have had lots of skin cancers and must use a sunblock winter and summer. I think most dermatologists say you must use a sunscreen in addition to any in primers or makeup. The latter just don't offer enough protection.


Agree @Zita Ty for posting. AND also one must use enough.

I see people on some of Q's shows and on HSN and they use a dab..it has to be enough and the best is mineral sunblock with zinc a % of 7% or higher.

I use a few but so thrilled about s bought a new one that was on sale at dermstore by Epionce a line I'm not familar with  but good reviews and it doesn't leave a masky white face. Love it! I add a hydrating primer and over that since my skin is dry. My foundation looks just right! I also liek supergoop mineral type - but it lends a bit more of a cast. still a good one! Epionce was very good price $21.00 for a 2.oz. tube on sale Smiley Happy .


@mimi5775, I find two types when I look this up, Epionce Ultra and Epionce Active.  Which are you using?  TIA

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Re: PRIMER WITH SPF ???????

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Well, I've had really good luck with Exuviance Sheer Daily Protector SPF 50 PA++++ and I find I don't need to use a primer, it sort of acts like a primer plus SPF as it has a little bit of dimethicone in it.  Works well under powder and liquid foundations.  This is a mineral sunscreen.

 

Dries down to a matte finish, doesn't have all the oils that the Coola SPF does, has antioxidants in the formulation and even Paula's Choice gave it five stars!  It does have a neutral tint to it, neither too pink nor too yellow, so there's no obvious white cast.  I have a neutral light-medium skin tone so the tint works well for me. 

 

I also have an oily t-zone and haven't had any break-outs or irritation from it.  It has a liquid consistency and you need to vigorously shake the bottle before applying.  Doesn't have a heavy, silicony feel to it like the Dr. Denese day cream (that cream is like a tinted primer with SPF, she was ahead of her time with that product).  The downside to the Dr. Denese cream is that it's too dark for my light-medium skin tone but it would work well for those with warm medium skin tone.

 

The Exuviance product can be purchased at Ulta.  

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@BellaCarro wrote:

@mimi5775 wrote:

@Zita wrote:

I have had lots of skin cancers and must use a sunblock winter and summer. I think most dermatologists say you must use a sunscreen in addition to any in primers or makeup. The latter just don't offer enough protection.


Agree @Zita Ty for posting. AND also one must use enough.

I see people on some of Q's shows and on HSN and they use a dab..it has to be enough and the best is mineral sunblock with zinc a % of 7% or higher.

I use a few but so thrilled about s bought a new one that was on sale at dermstore by Epionce a line I'm not familar with  but good reviews and it doesn't leave a masky white face. Love it! I add a hydrating primer and over that since my skin is dry. My foundation looks just right! I also liek supergoop mineral type - but it lends a bit more of a cast. still a good one! Epionce was very good price $21.00 for a 2.oz. tube on sale Smiley Happy .


@mimi5775, I find two types when I look this up, Epionce Ultra and Epionce Active.  Which are you using?  TIA


Hi @BellaCarro...it's this:

Epionce Ultra Shield Lotion SPF 50 (2.5 fl oz.)

[A high-protection sunscreen for sensitive skin] (copy/paste)

 

I don't mind if it's balanced with 2 chemical types, no probs with that..most zinc types (best) have one or we would look like a clown face lol.

It's thinner and more hydrating to me then others samples. I'm liking under makeup much more then my Josie Maran's SPF and the liking it s over my beloved Supergoop Mineral SS, 2nd in line JM's 3rd now..but  very hydrating/oily which is good for me some days.

This is 50 and a no show under my makeup -so thumbs up!.

I'm glad it has no nano's too. Not good. Are you using this? this line is all new to me... this was a hit or miss as dermstore w/a had a 20% off sale, I will keep using my others, love to switch things up  - I have  zero melanin so help me it's a PITA arghhh :/

 

A copy/paste:

Epoince Ultra Shield Lotion SPF 50 features a combination of chemical and physical sunscreens to provide full spectrum UVA-UVB protection for even the most sensitive skin. Micronized zinc helps to calm and protect against potential sun damage. A meadowfoam and flax complex provides antioxidant and anti-inflammatory relief. This quick-absorbing lotion goes on sheer and may be applied under makeup.

 

 

*Zinc Oxide 10.1%, Homosalate 10%, Octisalate 5%. Water, C12-15, Alkyl Benzoate, Caprylyl Methicone, Diisostearoyl Trimethylolpropane Siloxy Silicate, Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Limnanthes Alba (meadowfoam) Seed Oil, Steareth-21, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp Copolymer, Carthamus Tinctorius (safflower) Seed Oil, Cetearyl Alcohol, Linum Usitatissimum (linseed) Oil, Cetearyl Alcohol, Linum Usitatissimum (linseed) Seed Oil, Malic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Phoenix Actylifera (date) Fruit Extract, Polyhyroxystearic Acid, Steareth-2, Triethoxycapylylsilane.

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I have oily sensitive skin.  Every sunscreen I've ever used has broken me out and irritated my eyes.   Besides, if you'll notice that on every SPF product, whether it's foundation, primer, or moisturizer, states on the label that in order to be effective, you need to reapply it every 2 hours.  I'm lazy and don't want to wash my face and totally reapply makeup every 2 hours.

 

Years ago I found a loose finishing powder that comes in a tube with a brush on one end that is SPF 30.  I carry it in my purse.  ColorScience Sunforgettable water resistant powder sunscreen (active ingredients: Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Ozide)  Expensive but lasts forever.

 

And for primers?  I recommend Avon's Magix SPF 20.  $11.00

 

 

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Smash box makes a great primer w/ SPF. 

 

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@virgosun, most dermatologists recommend more  sunscreen than you would use of a primer. I believe a teaspoon of sunscreen is to cover your face and neck. So I don't get these companies that put sunscreen in their makeup. It won't give you enough protection. No one is going to use a teaspoon of primer or foundation. It does sound like a crazy amount but I would rather be safe.