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I have a family member who is a cosmetologist who frequents hair shows around the country. She knows that I use Wen and she used it herself at one point, but went back to shampoo. She told me at her most recent hair show that a very educated/well-known cosmetologist said that she made a shampoo documentary (which I've demanded to see {#emotions_dlg.scared}) that reveals that Wen does, in fact, contain sulfates and other damaging ingredients. I've read the ingredient lists on each formula --as I have them all--and can't see how this is possible. Is there someone out there with information that can confirm or deny the ingredients of this? Is there a way around presenting that your product is filled with sulfates and other ingredients? Eek!!! I can't face that my wonderful Wen might not be what it claims to be! Help!

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Not all sulfates are created equal. There are sulfates which aid in detangling the hair. They are found in conditioners. The friend of a friend who is "very educated" should know this.

The sulfates that everyone is so terrified of is sodium lauryl sulfate, which is a wide range cleanser and considered harsh, strips the hair, causes cancer, is the reason for world hunger, etc.

Get your flu shot...because I didn't.
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On 5/5/2014 HonnyBrown said:

Not all sulfates are created equal. There are sulfates which aid in detangling the hair. They are found in conditioners. The friend of a friend who is "very educated" should know this.

The sulfates that everyone is so terrified of is sodium lauryl sulfate, which is a wide range cleanser and considered harsh, strips the hair, causes cancer, is the reason for world hunger, etc.

How is this the reason for world hunger? Just wondering.

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Kate, SLS is fine when VO-5 uses it to sell great shampoos and conditioners for $0.88 each, or Aqua Fresh toothpaste gives that squeaky clean finish on the teeth for $3 a tube. But now that a small group of entrepreneurs, manufacturers and researchers (not Chaz Dean) find a different way to skin the cat they put down a cheap, functional ingredient.

But to answer your question, search the internet...I'm sure you will find the answer.

Get your flu shot...because I didn't.
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So, the multi-trillion dollar professional hair care product companies (those sold at salons) feel threatened enough by a small brand to "expose" it at their corporate shows? Chaz should be proud. If it was something that didn't work for people, that wasn't growing enough to feel it was cutting into their product sales at the salons, they would completely ignore Chaz and his little company.

I bet the documentary also told all the bad things about drug store brands and ended with the conclusion that the only "safe and effective" hair products to use are those recommended and sold by your salon.

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Just an aside, but one time someone somewhere and I certainly don't remember, because it was over twenty years ago. Anyway, they took a couple of high end salon products, a couple of cheap drug store one and some dishwashing detergent and had professional stylists all do a blind test of the shampoos. The dishwashing detergent rated highest. I admit to using dishwashing detergent on my hair a couple of times in a pinch and it was fine, but the tangles were incredible.

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I have very frizzy and coarse hair, so I get Keratin Treatments. (I know, I know....shame shame. {#emotions_dlg.blushing}) As you may know, you cannot use any products with sulfates after a Keratin Treatment. I use nothing but Wen. Ever. My hairdresser is always amazed at how long I get from my treatment, and we both attribute that to Wen!

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I'm always surprised @ the # of stylists "in the biz" that have not heard of Chaz Dean and/or Wen. I think we're hyper-sensitive since the Q promotes it heavily. A lot of people don't watch home-shopping or watch late-night TV infomercials, so the "who?" comes to us as a surprise, but in reality...the true test is when all the patents/contracts end & he makes a name on his own w/out mass marketing. Anyone can create a successful brand, but to create a across-the-board trend is the true test...both wonderful legacies, though.

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No offense, but I don't believe Wen has sulfates in it...and it doesn't matter that it's coming from a 'cosmetologist'...I mean, how many of them are tied to salon-brand products? So really how 'unbiased' are their views anyway?

So, again, not to be offensive...even if hypothetically Wen *did* contain sulfates, why wouldn't you still use it? I mean if it works, does it matter what's in it??? I mean, I love the results I get, and as long as there aren't ground up bunnies in the formula--and bunnies aren't getting poked in the eye with Wen to test it--I'm not concerned what's in there.

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On 5/5/2014 chickenmoo said:

No offense, but I don't believe Wen has sulfates in it...and it doesn't matter that it's coming from a 'cosmetologist'...I mean, how many of them are tied to salon-brand products? So really how 'unbiased' are their views anyway?

So, again, not to be offensive...even if hypothetically Wen *did* contain sulfates, why wouldn't you still use it? I mean if it works, does it matter what's in it??? I mean, I love the results I get, and as long as there aren't ground up bunnies in the formula--and bunnies aren't getting poked in the eye with Wen to test it--I'm not concerned what's in there.

Agree! It works for me. My hair looks dandy. There you have it!{#emotions_dlg.thumbup}