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07-15-2023 09:28 PM
07-15-2023 11:37 PM
I always advocate for prescription RetinA (aka Tretinoin). Retinol is much weaker.
07-15-2023 11:40 PM
It seems to me that marionette lines are caused more by sagging skin than being a wrinkle. As such, it needs something to tighten the skin and I don't think either retinol or prescription Retin-A (or Tretinoin) tightens skin, but I could be wrong.
07-16-2023 02:06 AM
@monicakm wrote:Doesn't everyone have marionette lines to some degree? I know for me, keeping my complexion plump with a lot of hydrating products certainly helps. I was under the impression tretinion was going to help as well. Botox?
@monicakm Juvederm®...and I believe there is a new filler for the lower face. Don't remember the brand name... di
07-16-2023 06:27 AM
These lines run in my family. I look in the mirror now and see Mom. I don't like them but aging is better than the alternative.
07-16-2023 08:07 AM
Tretinoin could soften lines, but if you're looking for a permanent resolution, surgical procedures are your only option. There are many kinds to chose from, depending on what result you wish.
Topical treatments maybe reduce the looks of marionette lines,, but do not get rid of them.. Opting for a type of surgery is the best answer.
07-16-2023 08:21 AM
@Allthingsgirly67 I've used RETIN A (RX) for over 35 yrs. beginning with the weakest strength and for a decade or more at the 1.0 level.
Although it does a lot for collagen production underneath the surface, deeper lines like marionaette ones and nasolabial lines cannot be completely erased.
If it really bothers you, fillers may do the job, but my girlfriend had fillers and it caused her face to have an awkward wider jawline...more a masculine trait.
Choose your surgeon or provider very carefully. There is a standard "map" for a woman's face that's triangular with the eyes, nose and mouth in specific areas and a desidered triangular shape that facial plastic surgeons use to keep the lover half of the face in a triangle (narrow) and not squared off or wide.
Too much filler done by someone without a lot of training and experience can lead to those Hollywood mishaps like Madonna, The K family, Meg Ryan, and so many others that now don't look anything like themselves.
If these lines are hereditary, filler done carefully and naturally may be your only recourse.
Wishing you luck if you decide to go that route.
07-16-2023 08:23 AM
@monicakm wrote:Doesn't everyone have marionette lines to some degree? I know for me, keeping my complexion plump with a lot of hydrating products certainly helps. I was under the impression tretinion was going to help as well. Botox?
@monicakm Botox may freeze the muscles especially around the eyes and forehead, but not fill in deep wrinkled areas.
07-16-2023 08:37 AM
@Shanus I have deep-set eyes (hollow, not hooded) and also hollow cheeks (just like Dad). I get Voluma® around the outside of my eye socket to the top of my cheekbone. It gives me a "softer" look...not so bony and starving looking.... di
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