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@Shanus   Tell her that heavy makeup makes women look old (it's really the truth).  If a woman thinks she looks old, she will stop with the heavy makeup.  Tammy was a real piece of work.  I believe the mascara was her signature to hideous.

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Maybe the mirror that she uses at home is too far away, and she cannot see properly, and hence the heavy makeup.

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@Shanus One thing is sure, we never know what someone else considers beauty to be, and we never know what makes someone else happy!  If she brings you photos, it may be different that what she expresses verbally. 

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@Shanus Change is difficult as we age. The brain relies more and more on long term memory. She may just be doing her TF look out of habit. I like the suggestion of changing one thing at a time. Ask her if she would like to come back next week for step 2 in her transition. Refresh her memory about the first change, then implement step 2. If she can afford to come in weekly, do step 3 the next week. Review the previous two changes. Treat this like piano lessons. Tell her you want her to practice the changes daily. Repetition is what she needs.

 

Baby steps will work best. Good luck. I have difficulty with change. I am older than you all. I let my hair go gray during the lockdown, and I do not like how I look with gray hair. I want my old color back, but I know this is more practical and requires no maintenance. She may really be trying but just can't give up her look in one big step.

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And some of us march to a different drummer--which is what make us special!  I think about all the people who have a trademark look, but it's them.

 

Especially little old ladies!  How many have you known and loved who maybe wore a certain hair style, bright lipstick, painted on eyebrows, and maybe a certain color or lots of jewelry.  And don't you think of that when you remember them?  

 

Maybe not some of the LOUD perfume, LOL, but something unique to them.  

 

I think @Shanus  has a wonderful job being an angel to a lot of women!  She is concerned with who they are and what they want to be, and helping them feel good about it!  

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@On It   I learned that when a woman gets stuck in a look, it's usually from the best, happiest times in her life. It is very dificult to change. 

 

BTW, I went silver from being a brunette all my life and didn't regognize myself for months. I tweaked the hairstyle  and brightend my makeup and am happy with it now. 

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@Sooner wrote:

And some of us march to a different drummer--which is what make us special!  I think about all the people who have a trademark look, but it's them.

 

Especially little old ladies!  How many have you known and loved who maybe wore a certain hair style, bright lipstick, painted on eyebrows, and maybe a certain color or lots of jewelry.  And don't you think of that when you remember them?  

 

Maybe not some of the LOUD perfume, LOL, but something unique to them.  

 

I think @Shanus  has a wonderful job being an angel to a lot of women!  She is concerned with who they are and what they want to be, and helping them feel good about it!  


@Sooner   Thanks, I think you get what I attempt to do. Sometimes, women that come in are just in need of a friend....or a bit of therapy. I do find many times, I'm doing a lot of listening to their problems. 

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She probably has friends or family that all wear the heavy overdone makeup.  There's a lady  in her 50-60's who is often on air to give her opinions who wears the  black eye liner on her lower and upper lid. She looks like a racoon . Her makeup look is awlful . This same lady has plenty of $$$ money to pay for a makeup artist to  spiff her up to go on air but her look is always the same racoon look.

 Humans are creatures of habit

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Maybe she's fine with her makeup but just likes spending time with you. 

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Do you think it would help to say something to her like, "You know, when you do a completely new look like we've done today, it can take 2-3 weeks for your eye and your brain to get used to the new you.  So, over the next 2-3 weeks don't change a thing.  Give yourself time, get used to the new you, and see what happens."

 

My mother used to be this way about home decorating.  Her house was way too cluttered, with something on every wall and surface.  Every so often she'd discover a new interior decorator, have her come over and re-do her house.  Most of the "junk" was put away, and the house looked so much better.  Within a month, it was all back, piece by piece.