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02-24-2014 07:12 PM
On 2/23/2014 bagsers said:On 2/23/2014 MarenSeattle said:I don't know the brand of my DPL, but it does have 2 panels. Just that darn beeping drove me nuts. And, I couldn't figure out how to turn it off (the beeping that is). I think I'm likely going to try the Illumask. Do you know of any issues with dermarolling and light therapy? I'm only rolling about once every 3 to 4 weeks (a .5) . If you don't mind beeping, I can look for my DPL, and you're welcome to have it. I'll have to check, since I may have given it to the GoodwillOn 2/23/2014 bagsers said:On 2/23/2014 MarenSeattle said:Maren, which DPL are you getting? I have one, but it beeps every few minutes, so I don't like it. I'm thinking of trying the Illumask, since it looks easy. I have a bad habit of buying tools, and then find they're too much of a pain in the patooty to use.I'm very happy with the results from my LightStim. I have the Mini. I've kind of fallen off the wagon because I added too many gadgets and it just seems OVERWHELMING at times, so I end up using none of them.
I'm planning on getting the DPL, but have racked up some charges I want to whittle away before I fork over the $$$ for that.
The Illumask mentioned upthread looks like a no brainer, but I don't know what the infrared strength is (or however it's efficacy is measured).
Even before getting bogged down by my other gizmos, the LightStim took almost an hour because I have SO MANY areas I need to treat. It was definitely do-able, though, and very pleasant.
EDIT: I have the LightStim app for iPhone and use it for the Acne setting, which is 5 minutes.
The one I've been eyeing is the two-panel model, as opposed to the hand-held one. Which are you using?
I've been looking at the Illumask -- good reviews! And it could not be any easier! Really tempted. And this one really isn't a pain. You do NOTHING but slip on a pair of glasses, essentially. I'm going to pick one up at the Walgreen's near me -- according to the website they have one in stock.
I'd aim to use it daily (the LightStim representative told me you can't overdo it -- but I'd asked her about 6 minutes -- not 15). Someone on Ulta's site said they used it 2x a day.
It would sure free up my time and almost FORCE me to use that NuFace!
What do you think??
ETA: I'm thinking I'm going to get it -- crazy not to @ $30. The Walsgreens near me indicates they have it in stock so I'm going to swing by in the next few days.
Oops -- I didn't see your question about the Dermarolling/Light. Someone once posted here that light shouldn't be used for a few days after rolling because__________? I totally do not remember the reason. She also said that rolling every few days doesn't achieve the best results because it doesn't allow time to let to collagen produce and "bloom" (my word). We know she's right about that, primarily because of what Lyn in MI and BellaCarro have shared from their Dr. Setterfield studies.
Personally, I've done LightStim immediately after (and before, come to think of it) rolling with no problems. But that was when I was rolling 2-3 times a week. Since I've cut back to 1 x mo, maybe I'll give the LightStim ad 24+ hour break, just in case what that mystery poster said is accurate.
Man, it's exhausting, isn't it?
02-24-2014 07:44 PM
On 2/24/2014 HappyDaze said:I am confused about this gadget. So some light can stimulate collagen and other wavelengths of light can actually destroy/breakdown collagen? What about freckling- will lights like this cause people to freckle if they are prone to freckling? And like another poster mentioned, if you have to continue to use it- some even saying they notice a change to the skin if they skip only a week or two!-then it isn't really stimulating collagen production except in the instant? Collagen shouldn't break down within a week or two so I am confused why skipping a week or two would cause the skin to start looking bad again? That seems really quick for the skin to start changing back?
A devil's advocate, sort of, but I'll offer this anyway...
This is a heat device that penetrates the layers of skin, and temporarily plumps up (expands) / "opens" pores. You need the serum because heat draws out moisture in your skin. As you expand your pores like that, eventually any pigmentation may "lighten." (Remember, that is the reported primary benefit of derma rolling...Skin needling also stretches open the pores.)
Anyway, this also explains that when you stop using the device, you notice your old crags & furrows (just using these terms for expression).
The collagen is stimulated because of the chemical reaction of the heat, but the effect is still only temporary.
So, it is a daily commitment. But so is exercise and good nutrition and other topical skincare. Think of what we would look like in a short week's time if we had no water & nutrition.
eta: I will say, though, about the serum...I do not know about the alguronic acid, (though I did try the Algenist serum...) but I do know about hylauronic acid; and HA is also in the Algenist. It is the effect of the HA that you will see, in conjunction with the temporary plumping with the heat.
02-24-2014 09:01 PM
I am so tired of seeing this 'presented' I can scream. Good grief!
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