Beauty

[Crisso]

On 2/19/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Oh great, I just quick did a search and this is 1st thing I read about dimethicone!

<h2>What are the Concerns?</h2>

The first concern with this ingredient is that it covers the skin. Manufacturers may think that’s a benefit, but I don’t. Imagine having a thin, rubber-like cover over your face all day. Sound healthy? It’s not.

Not only are you missing out on truly moisturizing ingredients like natural oils, extracts, and shea butter, but you’re interfering with the skin’s natural processes, like sweating, temperature regulating, sloughing off dead skin cells, and the like. Prolonged exposure can increase skin irritation and create a dependency on the product. Just like petroleum jelly, dimethicone can actually end up drying your skin the more you use it, as it interferes with the natural hydrating processes, making fine lines and wrinkles more noticeable.

Here’s something even worse: Have you noticed, since using these new products with dimethicone, that your skin is breaking out more? No surprise, as the covering and trapping property of dimethicone means that it’s not just trapping moisture, but bacteria, skin oils, sebum, and other impurities. That means those prone to acne or with oily skin are more likely to see increased blackheads and breakouts when using products containing this ingredient.

I would bet my house that this is from a very unreliable source. The wording is very unprofessional. In fact, what the author says is ludicrously unscientific. Silicones do not suffocate the skin. Their molecules are too large to even penetrate the pores.

What they do is create a kind of permeable barrier that improves moisture retention and allows actives to penetrate. They most definitely do not sit on the skin like "rubber-like cover over your face all day."

Again, no ingredient will please everyone or agree with everyone. But I think that silicones are vilified most often because of their texture. People equate that slippery feeling with heaviness or greasiness. But silicones are rated zero on the comedogenic scale. They do not clog pores.

The American Academy of Dermatology touts their benefits in skin care.

Thank you,suzyQ3. Now I remember why I bother! I was going to look for the other recent thread on Hydroshield and copy your post from there but gave up. I am over my snit now...

[maestra]

On 2/19/2015 santorini said:

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Sassenach1--You're scaring me! If it contains a lot of 'cones I'm now worried I'll start breaking out!!

betteb--Yes, I exfoliate on a regular basis so unfortunately it's not that. I appreciate the help though As far as the amount I'm using, I'm just following the directions that came with it so I don't think that can be the issue either.

SILICONES WILL NOT BREAK YOU OUT. THAT IS A MYTH. YES I AM SHOUTING!

THEY BREAK ME OUT! AND YES, I'M SHOUTING BACK.

SILICONES BREAK ME OUT ALSO! I'm dealing w/this now-Dr. Dennis Gross Fibroblast moisturizer-2nd ingredient is dimethicone. Back that went.

[Crisso]

On 2/19/2015 maestra said:

On 2/19/2015 santorini said:

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Sassenach1--You're scaring me! If it contains a lot of 'cones I'm now worried I'll start breaking out!!

betteb--Yes, I exfoliate on a regular basis so unfortunately it's not that. I appreciate the help though As far as the amount I'm using, I'm just following the directions that came with it so I don't think that can be the issue either.

SILICONES WILL NOT BREAK YOU OUT. THAT IS A MYTH. YES I AM SHOUTING!

THEY BREAK ME OUT! AND YES, I'M SHOUTING BACK.

SILICONES BREAK ME OUT ALSO! I'm dealing w/this now-Dr. Dennis Gross Fibroblast moisturizer-2nd ingredient is dimethicone. Back that went.

[CWS22]

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Oh great, I just quick did a search and this is 1st thing I read about dimethicone!

<h2>What are the Concerns?</h2>

The first concern with this ingredient is that it covers the skin. Manufacturers may think that’s a benefit, but I don’t. Imagine having a thin, rubber-like cover over your face all day. Sound healthy? It’s not.

Not only are you missing out on truly moisturizing ingredients like natural oils, extracts, and shea butter, but you’re interfering with the skin’s natural processes, like sweating, temperature regulating, sloughing off dead skin cells, and the like. Prolonged exposure can increase skin irritation and create a dependency on the product. Just like petroleum jelly, dimethicone can actually end up drying your skin the more you use it, as it interferes with the natural hydrating processes, making fine lines and wrinkles more noticeable.

Here’s something even worse: Have you noticed, since using these new products with dimethicone, that your skin is breaking out more? No surprise, as the covering and trapping property of dimethicone means that it’s not just trapping moisture, but bacteria, skin oils, sebum, and other impurities. That means those prone to acne or with oily skin are more likely to see increased blackheads and breakouts when using products containing this ingredient.

Seriously. I didn't mean google and pick whatever first hits you research. I meant scientific research or from sources that are credible and actually quote the scientific research they are basing their findings on.... Never mind. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother!!!

I don't know why you bother either. If someone tells you that 'cones break them out, why would you debate that point with them? I posted a similar view on 'cones & HydroShield recently and was promptly told that 'cones aren't bad. Okayyyyy, but they ARE FOR ME. So let it be. You're not going to convince someone who's already narrowed down the culprit in their skincare products.

[Crisso]

On 2/19/2015 CWS22 said:

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Oh great, I just quick did a search and this is 1st thing I read about dimethicone!

<h2>What are the Concerns?</h2>

The first concern with this ingredient is that it covers the skin. Manufacturers may think that’s a benefit, but I don’t. Imagine having a thin, rubber-like cover over your face all day. Sound healthy? It’s not.

Not only are you missing out on truly moisturizing ingredients like natural oils, extracts, and shea butter, but you’re interfering with the skin’s natural processes, like sweating, temperature regulating, sloughing off dead skin cells, and the like. Prolonged exposure can increase skin irritation and create a dependency on the product. Just like petroleum jelly, dimethicone can actually end up drying your skin the more you use it, as it interferes with the natural hydrating processes, making fine lines and wrinkles more noticeable.

Here’s something even worse: Have you noticed, since using these new products with dimethicone, that your skin is breaking out more? No surprise, as the covering and trapping property of dimethicone means that it’s not just trapping moisture, but bacteria, skin oils, sebum, and other impurities. That means those prone to acne or with oily skin are more likely to see increased blackheads and breakouts when using products containing this ingredient.

Seriously. I didn't mean google and pick whatever first hits you research. I meant scientific research or from sources that are credible and actually quote the scientific research they are basing their findings on.... Never mind. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother!!!

I don't know why you bother either. If someone tells you that 'cones break them out, why would you debate that point with them? I posted a similar view on 'cones & HydroShield recently and was promptly told that 'cones aren't bad. Okayyyyy, but they ARE FOR ME. So let it be. You're not going to convince someone who's already narrowed down the culprit in their skincare products.

[suzyQ3]

On 2/19/2015 CWS22 said:

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

On 2/19/2015 bunnypink said:

Oh great, I just quick did a search and this is 1st thing I read about dimethicone!

<h2>What are the Concerns?</h2>

The first concern with this ingredient is that it covers the skin. Manufacturers may think that’s a benefit, but I don’t. Imagine having a thin, rubber-like cover over your face all day. Sound healthy? It’s not.

Not only are you missing out on truly moisturizing ingredients like natural oils, extracts, and shea butter, but you’re interfering with the skin’s natural processes, like sweating, temperature regulating, sloughing off dead skin cells, and the like. Prolonged exposure can increase skin irritation and create a dependency on the product. Just like petroleum jelly, dimethicone can actually end up drying your skin the more you use it, as it interferes with the natural hydrating processes, making fine lines and wrinkles more noticeable.

Here’s something even worse: Have you noticed, since using these new products with dimethicone, that your skin is breaking out more? No surprise, as the covering and trapping property of dimethicone means that it’s not just trapping moisture, but bacteria, skin oils, sebum, and other impurities. That means those prone to acne or with oily skin are more likely to see increased blackheads and breakouts when using products containing this ingredient.

Seriously. I didn't mean google and pick whatever first hits you research. I meant scientific research or from sources that are credible and actually quote the scientific research they are basing their findings on.... Never mind. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother!!!

I don't know why you bother either. If someone tells you that 'cones break them out, why would you debate that point with them? I posted a similar view on 'cones & HydroShield recently and was promptly told that 'cones aren't bad. Okayyyyy, but they ARE FOR ME. So let it be. You're not going to convince someone who's already narrowed down the culprit in their skincare products.

That's a valid question. I can't speak for Crisso, although I agree with her about the facts, but I think it's futile to debate anecdotal evidence. Instead, I just post credible information. It's up to others to do with it what they will.

I continue to do so because I think it's important to alleviate the fears of those who read some of the posts here. I've actually read some posts where people who had absolutely no reactions or problems with silicones become concerned because of the aforementioned anecdotal reports.

[Crisso]

On 2/19/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 2/19/2015 CWS22 said:

On 2/19/2015 Crisso said:

Seriously. I didn't mean google and pick whatever first hits you research. I meant scientific research or from sources that are credible and actually quote the scientific research they are basing their findings on.... Never mind. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother!!!

I don't know why you bother either. If someone tells you that 'cones break them out, why would you debate that point with them? I posted a similar view on 'cones & HydroShield recently and was promptly told that 'cones aren't bad. Okayyyyy, but they ARE FOR ME. So let it be. You're not going to convince someone who's already narrowed down the culprit in their skincare products.

That's a valid question. I can't speak for Crisso, although I agree with her about the facts, but I think it's futile to debate anecdotal evidence. Instead, I just post credible information. It's up to others to do with it what they will.

I continue to do so because I think it's important to alleviate the fears of those who read some of the posts here. I've actually read some posts where people who had absolutely no reactions or problems with silicones become concerned because of the aforementioned anecdotal reports.

For the record. I get impatient, yes, when people respond to something without having read what was written in context.

First of all, the OP never said she broke out because of the silicones in the product. She said she did not find it moisturizing enough. Read her original post.

My first post was, I think, very balanced. Read that too. I am speaking to CWS22 here, by the way.

It was other posters who brought up the silicones which, and I quote the OP, "scared" her. Which was why I made a comment about the myth of the evils of silicones.

My comment "why do I bother" was in response to doing a quick internet search and jumping on the first anecdotal sources, as Suze says, coupled with posters just refusing to even considering more credible sources. I Never debated with the OP (again, the person I was responding to) about whether or not the product would work for her.

AMEN

[Dishy]

I love how everything on here becomes a World War. HydroShield is just a primer. If you need something more than that, try this.

It really works for Dr. Denese!!

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/12/style/anti-aging-potion-or-poison.html

[Crisso]

On 2/19/2015 Dishy said:

I love how everything on here becomes a World War. HydroShield is just a primer. If you need something more than that, try this.

It really works for Dr. Denese!!

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/12/style/anti-aging-potion-or-poison.html

Yes, yes. We know. You dug up enough threads and posted this ad nauseum!

[Dishy]

Have a nice night!!!