Beauty

[Katluvr58]

On 6/18/2014 Irishrose136 said:

On 6/18/2014 Katluvr58 said:

Hyacinth, check out the Missha products. They lean toward pinker tones. I am fair, cool and I give up on most other foundations. Missha has #13, fair, #21 fair/light and #23 medium. Also Lioele has a really nice gel foundation that I just started using and it is amazing. It covers well, needs no primer and no concealer or powder. It dries to a powder finish. Check it out.

KL, I checked out Lioele. I was turned off by their return policy - no returns accepted. $25 is too much to lose, imo, if the shade doesn't work.

Do you buy it somewhere that has a friendly return policy?

Irishrose, go to ebay, you can order a sample for $9.95 for 20 pcs. Free shipping. Contact the seller if you need to return. The one I bought was from iamlove-shop. $14.78 for a full size, free shipping, 30 day return. They are a great seller. I just bought two items and received only one item, to be fair I am not sure if I accidentally threw the other item out. I contacted them and asked if they sent it. They apologized up one side and down the other, offered to send it or refund my money. I told them to just send it. The Lioele has two colors, one is an ivory and fair the other looks like maybe a light/medium. The ivory is dead on for me. Did you get the ASDM sunscreen? I ask because that is about the color of my skin.

[suzyQ3]

On 6/18/2014 Desi said:

Mac does the reverse, w is cool, c is warm. No idea, maybe to throw people off, lol.

Their rationale is based on their interpretation of the color wheel. They consider pinkish, or red tones to be warm and yellow tones to be cool.

[Irishrose136]

On 6/18/2014 Desi said:

Mac does the reverse, w is cool, c is warm. No idea, maybe to throw people off, lol.

I know it confuses the heck out of me.

I checked online after Wayne Goss referred to a MAC foundation. (We have no counters locally.) Bummer!

[Irishrose136]

On 6/18/2014 Katluvr58 said:

On 6/18/2014 Irishrose136 said:

On 6/18/2014 Katluvr58 said:

Hyacinth, check out the Missha products. They lean toward pinker tones. I am fair, cool and I give up on most other foundations. Missha has #13, fair, #21 fair/light and #23 medium. Also Lioele has a really nice gel foundation that I just started using and it is amazing. It covers well, needs no primer and no concealer or powder. It dries to a powder finish. Check it out.

KL, I checked out Lioele. I was turned off by their return policy - no returns accepted. $25 is too much to lose, imo, if the shade doesn't work.

Do you buy it somewhere that has a friendly return policy?

Irishrose, go to ebay, you can order a sample for $9.95 for 20 pcs. Free shipping. Contact the seller if you need to return. The one I bought was from iamlove-shop. $14.78 for a full size, free shipping, 30 day return. They are a great seller. I just bought two items and received only one item, to be fair I am not sure if I accidentally threw the other item out. I contacted them and asked if they sent it. They apologized up one side and down the other, offered to send it or refund my money. I told them to just send it. The Lioele has two colors, one is an ivory and fair the other looks like maybe a light/medium. The ivory is dead on for me. Did you get the ASDM sunscreen? I ask because that is about the color of my skin.

KL, glad you saw my question. I'll definitely check that out. After seeing the shades on their website, I figured I would match the ivory.

LOL.........I never tried reading/interpreting/understanding pages and even pictures written in Korean before. There were few clues I could grasp. Dear me! I was out of my element.

ETA: Kat, do you buy the holika pink powder product on ebay also?

[Desi]

Everyone refers to MAC colors. I've never been in there but there is an intimidating store in our mall. Maybe one day.

[Katluvr58]

On 6/18/2014 Irishrose136 said:

On 6/18/2014 Katluvr58 said:

On 6/18/2014 Irishrose136 said:

On 6/18/2014 Katluvr58 said:

Hyacinth, check out the Missha products. They lean toward pinker tones. I am fair, cool and I give up on most other foundations. Missha has #13, fair, #21 fair/light and #23 medium. Also Lioele has a really nice gel foundation that I just started using and it is amazing. It covers well, needs no primer and no concealer or powder. It dries to a powder finish. Check it out.

KL, I checked out Lioele. I was turned off by their return policy - no returns accepted. $25 is too much to lose, imo, if the shade doesn't work.

Do you buy it somewhere that has a friendly return policy?

Irishrose, go to ebay, you can order a sample for $9.95 for 20 pcs. Free shipping. Contact the seller if you need to return. The one I bought was from iamlove-shop. $14.78 for a full size, free shipping, 30 day return. They are a great seller. I just bought two items and received only one item, to be fair I am not sure if I accidentally threw the other item out. I contacted them and asked if they sent it. They apologized up one side and down the other, offered to send it or refund my money. I told them to just send it. The Lioele has two colors, one is an ivory and fair the other looks like maybe a light/medium. The ivory is dead on for me. Did you get the ASDM sunscreen? I ask because that is about the color of my skin.

KL, glad you saw my question. I'll definitely check that out. After seeing the shades on their website, I figured I would match the ivory.

LOL.........I never tried reading/interpreting/understanding pages and even pictures written in Korean before. There were few clues I could grasp. Dear me! I was out of my element.

ETA: Kat, do you buy the holika pink powder product on ebay also?

Yes I do buy it on ebay. It's in my cart for Friday (payday), rinishop is the seller, $9.85, free shipping and in english. Lioele Ivory sold by iamloveshop is in English, lol.

[Irishrose136]

KL.................What was the name of the pink powder made by Holika Holika?

eta: I found my own answer. Thanks. I forgot the name but a picture is a 1,000 words

[soonersis]

Hyacinth, if you are interested in mineral makeup you might give Everyday Minerals (online company) a try. I wore it for years before giving Laura Geller and Tarte foundations a try but those have recently failed me so I've gone back to EM. You can get free samples (only pay for shipping) from them and they have Cool, Warm, and Neutral colors. I too consider my skin neutral and their neutral shades work well for me. They have matte, semi-matte and jojoba bases. I am very fair also and both their 0N and 1N shades work for me (colors seem very forgiving). I am also oily so use the matte. They have good customer service and fast shipping (out of Austin, TX).

[3star]

I used to have this very problem with QVC foundations, waaayyy too yellow. In Bare minerals, I need to mix Fairly Light with Medium to get the right shade, just too much trouble. Estée Lauder as we'll as Shiseido have several neutral shades with pink undertones. They are pricey, but the shades are not only forgiving but you also get a very good match; the plus is that you can buy these lines at every department store.

[FUTURE]

On 6/18/2014 MarenSeattle said:

On 6/18/2014 MarenSeattle said:

Rarely do I see a foundation that's classified as 'neutral' -- mostly yellow, rarely pink (and I'm pink!).

L'oreal has a good range of shades with for different undertones (and neutral!). They have a little sheer plastic sheet you hold over the inside of your wrist and the shade that seems to disappear is supposed to be your ideal match.

ETA: Katluvr is right! I got a sample of Missha #13 and there was NO yellow in it. Just a tad too fair for me, so I'm going to try the #21. Five samples packets (one shade) on eBay for about $5.

Haven't tried the Lioele yet, but trust Katluvr's assessment.

I would definitely agree with both Loreal and Missha!! I am fair - light and am neutral leaning cool (if that makes sense), and I've had great luck with both of these brands. I wear Missha almost every day, in 21, and loreal lumi, at times. Good luck!!