Beauty

[brewhaha]

Whether a product was tested on animals or made in China doesn't is inconsequential to me. I eat fish, poultry & meat and I don't feel repulsed by it.

[suzyQ3]

On 6/16/2014 brewhaha said:

Whether a product was tested on animals or made in China doesn't is inconsequential to me. I eat fish, poultry & meat and I don't feel repulsed by it.

I eat fish, poultry, and meat, too, brewhaha.

I respect those who choose a different diet, and I also hope that at some point there will be no more testing of animals solely for the purpose of selling cosmetics that involves any pain or suffering.

[sun8shine]

Cosmetics are a regulated industry. Any ""cruelty free"" product is still certified as safe by the FDA.

There are many tests that were once done on animals that can be done in petri dishes and test tubes without sacrificing safety (and it is no doubt cheaper and quicker).

We don't slaughter whales anymore to make perfume and hopefully we can move away from animal tests in cosmetics and maintain safe products for consumers.

[songbird]

Here's a link about this practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing

I do object when it's cosmetics involved, but not necessarily for medicine.

Apparently L'oreal has objected to a ban on animal testing, so I assume they still test. I would think they're not interested in law suits. The primary reason for testing on animals in the cosmetic industry.

[KateChopin]

On 6/16/2014 HappyDaze said:

On 6/16/2014 HonnyBrown said:

"Cruelty free" and "Not tested on animals" are two different things.

Why would anyone want to purchase something that is not tested on a living being? I've seen first hand how beneficial animal testing can be.

Also, the results are rarely as severe as what PETA wants you to thinks.

You are wrong- "non tested on animals" is the VERY DEFINITION of "cruelty free", a least in terms of the beauty industry labeling!

And you are disillusioned if you think the results are "rarely as severe" as what Peta "wants you to think" - either that or just naive or don't want to know the truth of what really goes on. Which is your choice but please don't try to minimize what actually goes on during animal testing.

And why would anyone want to purchase something not tested on a living being? Well, because we CARE about life, be it human or otherwise, and the suffering of our fellow beings. You use WEN- you do realize it was NOT tested on a living being, correct? And yet you still use it and you lived. Also, we are talking about beauty products- animals don't need to die so we can have pretty eyeshadow when it is completely unnecessary.

Happy DAZE, I appreciate your passion on this topic---you have rekindled mine regarding the avoidance of products that do this. Years ago, when Kim Bassinger shut down a lab nearby for this very reason, we saw how they conduct this testing. It was heartbreaking. Now that I have a dog, it gets me to my very core. Thanks for bringing it to our attention when we might otherwise forget.

[veganista]

On 6/16/2014 FlowershopGirl said:

On 6/16/2014 HonnyBrown said:

"Cruelty free" and "Not tested on animals" are two different things.

Why would anyone want to purchase something that is not tested on a living being? I've seen first hand how beneficial animal testing can be.

Also, the results are rarely as severe as what PETA wants you to thinks.

Go to The Beagle Freedom Project's website, see what they show. They DO NOT overdramatize the situation at all either. Think of a cute little beagle and see his/her face and then think of it having things stiffed into its throat, mouth and eyes, every day. Think that after these places are done using them this way, they kill them rather than put them up for adoption because they deem them unfit to rehome. BFP lobbies to rescue them, rehome them and rehabilitate them and they are very successful at it. When I see a beagle face, I don't want to think something I purchased had anything to do with causing it pain!

The sweet little Beagle is the number one dog they use because they are so kind and sweet and humble, therefore making it easy to torture them for your cosmetics. I have seen the films of the Beagles being released and they had never seen the light, nor had they touched their feet to grass. But they were the lucky ones who were captured and set free. Though their lives will never be quite the same, at least they are free and able to live in loving homes.

H*ll to the abusers of all the animals just for cosmetics sake.

[veganista]

On 6/16/2014 MoJoV said:

Thank you Nikalette for bringing the subject up,it's important to me that I don't buy products tested on animals. I also belong to many wildlife and animal rights groups. Have to speak for those with no voice and speaking with your $ is the language we all understand.

I am also an advocate and activist for animals. I also want to thank the OP for bringing things to light about animal testing. Who does it and who doesn't. QVC has so many vendors who do.

If you love animals and don't think they should be tortured and killed for your pleasure, please do your research.

[Lucky Charm]

I am loyal to one brand and it covers, skincare, body care, makeup and hair care.

It does not test on animals.

I hope and pray they never change their standard because as much as it would mess up everything we use in this house and that of my grandchildren's.

However, I would no longer continue to use the products.

[Lucky Charm]

Slightly O/T, but not really. I was watching some crazy channel this morning and it was like the agricultural channel or something. It was like an hour long news cast, but it was all about farming, pesticides (ugh) and even livestock.

During one story, I couldn't help to notice that they kept showing a pig nursing her young. The female was laying on her side and there were poles keeping her from being able to stand and to even nuzzle her young.

Every once in a while one of the piglets would be pushed away from feeding by the others and it would wander up to the Mama's head and the Mama would try to smell it and nuzzle it, but was held back by these bars or poles.

I kept rewinding and looking to see this very sad reality. The mother couldn't get up on her own feet because she was held down in to lay on her side to nurse. She wouldn't have been able to turn around in this stall even if she was standing.

I thought of the claustrophobic aspect of this situation and the inhumane treatment all for the sake of bacon, ham, chops or a hot dog.

No thank you.

[MarenSeattle]

On 6/16/2014 HappyDaze said:

On 6/16/2014 Danish Gal said:

You might want to check again. Last I heard, Isomers sells their products in China.

yes but please read what I posted- there are SOME companies that sell in China but have been able to prove their safety using other methods that were acceptable to China so they are not required to test. And yes, Isomers was one of them so they do NOT test on animals.

That is why I said we can no longer just write off a company that sells to China- you need to contact them directly to see if they were able to circumvent the animal testing. China is getting a little less stringent about the animal testing, fortunately.

Sigh. Well some of us paid attention and appreciate the clarification, HD.