Beauty

[SurvivedOne]

On 4/24/2014 willdob3 said:

On 4/23/2014 HiLo said:

On 4/23/2014 GoodStuff said:

Aging gracefully involves accepting and even embracing the changes, challenges, and blessings that come with age and maturity. It includes recognizing that youth and even life itself (at least life in this world) aren't forever. While we should do what we can to care for our bodies, health, and appearance, tending our spirits and relationships is even more key to joy and fulfillment in our later years. Love, joy, peace, and wisdom give us a deep and genuine beauty that no blush, lipstick, or foundation can ever give.

So beautifully said. Thank you GoodStuff!

I agree.

I believe that it is mostly a mindset, an attitude. Being comfortable in one's skin 24/7. I've gained a wonderful amount of wisdom with age & experience. I look forward to more of that over the coming years.

I disagree that it necessarily means not doing things to improve one's looks. I read so often about how some celebrity is not aging gracefully when we see that they got bad results from some procedure on their face. The ones that have good work done on their faces are proclaimed to be aging gracefully. That is incorrect thinking. Aging gracefully does not have anything to do with how good one's doctor is.

It is the desperate feeling some have that quality of life is dependent on one's appearance that is a negative.

I am not a celebrity...what any celebrity chooses to do does not affect me, my life. More power to anyone who chooses to do what they wish in their life. I do, however take offence to the underlined statement most especially. As a cancer survivor, I will speak only for myself. Having lost my hair, brows, taking care of myself both inside and out makes me feel alive and vital. You have no idea making blanket statements what anyone has gone through in their life. I have not had any work done, don't need to...but if I were ever to choose doing so and it made me happy, then that is all that matters. I take really good care of my skin, my hair, my body. Love fashion, dressing how I wish and I look fabulous. Thoughtless blanket statement remarks are easy when you haven't walked a mile is someone's shoes. I am graceful, my mother is graceful. That is all that really matters to me. And there is most certainly nothing "desperate" whatsoever caring about one's appearance.

[biancardi]

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

excellent post. I am not sure why women have these wars over a personal preference.

[suzyQ3]

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

Whenever the issue of going gray or not going gray comes up, I've replied strongly to those who imply or outright state that going gray means that you are nobly and bravely aging gracefully. The implication is that those who choose to color their hair are somehow going against nature (BTW, I have an appointment later today to do just that. )

So in fairness, I also disagree with your "It is not aging gracefully to go gray" and your seeming inability to understand the mindset of those who choose to go gray.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow forgo the judgmental attitudes on both sides?

[biancardi]

suzy, I took that sentence to mean that going grey isn't the end of and be all of growing old gracefully. That one can grow old gracefully regardless of having grey hair or not.

I could be wrong, but that is how I read it.

[SurvivedOne]

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

Whenever the issue of going gray or not going gray comes up, I've replied strongly to those who imply or outright state that going gray means that you are nobly and bravely aging gracefully. The implication is that those who choose to color their hair are somehow going against nature (BTW, I have an appointment later today to do just that. )

So in fairness, I also disagree with your "It is not aging gracefully to go gray" and your seeming inability to understand the mindset of those who choose to go gray.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow forgo the judgmental attitudes on both sides?

Don't know who decided going gray equates in any way to "grace". Grace is something within. How you move through the world. If someone equates putting color on one's body that one wasn't born with...what about makeup, nail polish is that also not "aging gracefully"? There is no "award" nor nobility about choosing to go au natural...in any personal way. It seems more like trying to convince one's self and justify to others. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I only care what I do.

[suzyQ3]

On 4/24/2014 biancardi said:

suzy, I took that sentence to mean that going grey isn't the end of and be all of growing old gracefully. That one can grow old gracefully regardless of having grey hair or not.

I could be wrong, but that is how I read it.

I don't know. I was taking the whole paragraph into account.

Maybe I inferred incorrectly. It seemed to have a negative ring to it as opposed to just stressing that aging gracefully has nothing to do with hair color.

If Lovely2 meant only what you thought, then I have no disagreement with her post.

[suzyQ3]

On 4/24/2014 SurvivedOne said:

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

Whenever the issue of going gray or not going gray comes up, I've replied strongly to those who imply or outright state that going gray means that you are nobly and bravely aging gracefully. The implication is that those who choose to color their hair are somehow going against nature (BTW, I have an appointment later today to do just that. )

So in fairness, I also disagree with your "It is not aging gracefully to go gray" and your seeming inability to understand the mindset of those who choose to go gray.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow forgo the judgmental attitudes on both sides?

Don't know who decided going gray equates in any way to "grace". Grace is something within. How you move through the world. If someone equates putting color on one's body that one wasn't born with...what about makeup, nail polish is that also not "aging gracefully"? There is no "award" nor nobility about choosing to go au natural...in any personal way. It seems more like trying to convince one's self and justify to others. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I only care what I do.

Survived, you and I agreed on that other thread. I'm sure we agree here.

It's clear that I did not make myself clear in response to Lovely2.

[Annabellethecat66]

I consider those two words to be an oxymoron. I also think the word aging is an insult to the word graceful.

As you can probably ascertain, I am not happy about getting old. I'm lucky (very lucky) in that I'm in good health. However, my brain says go-go-go; but my brain says no-no-no!

I have the money I could travel anywhere or do whatever I want but because my back is so bad, it makes it difficult.

Then the other side of my brain says, "Quit your complaining. You have a wonderful life." So far the good side is wining.

Now if I could just find a traveling companion who was even a tiny bit like my late husband, I'd be a happy camper.

[veganista]

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/24/2014 SurvivedOne said:

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

Whenever the issue of going gray or not going gray comes up, I've replied strongly to those who imply or outright state that going gray means that you are nobly and bravely aging gracefully. The implication is that those who choose to color their hair are somehow going against nature (BTW, I have an appointment later today to do just that. )

So in fairness, I also disagree with your "It is not aging gracefully to go gray" and your seeming inability to understand the mindset of those who choose to go gray.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow forgo the judgmental attitudes on both sides?

Don't know who decided going gray equates in any way to "grace". Grace is something within. How you move through the world. If someone equates putting color on one's body that one wasn't born with...what about makeup, nail polish is that also not "aging gracefully"? There is no "award" nor nobility about choosing to go au natural...in any personal way. It seems more like trying to convince one's self and justify to others. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I only care what I do.

Survived, you and I agreed on that other thread. I'm sure we agree here.

It's clear that I did not make myself clear in response to Lovely2.

SuzieQ3, sorry I am too dense to understand you. We can't all be that smart.

[suzyQ3]

On 4/24/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/24/2014 SurvivedOne said:

On 4/24/2014 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/23/2014 Lovely2 said:

On 4/23/2014 SeaGal said:

Funny you started this thread because I was just thinking about what this means too. I am offended by the poster that thinks that by coloring our hair (Silver Fox thread) means we are not aging gracefully? Thats a crock...

Hair color has been an issue on here for years. I will color my hair until I can't for some reason. My 93 year old mother still gets her hair colored and I'm so glad she cares about how she looks.

It is not aging gracefully to go gray. Gray hair only makes you look older than your actual years. Someone on this thread said "older than what?" Most women look at least ten years older than their actual age when they let their hair go gray. I will never understand that mindset (you're aging gracefully if you go gray) about letting your hair go gray. But it is their choice.

I believe you should try and look your best, whatever your age, with make-up, skin care, the clothes you choose to wear and the color of your hair. If you choose to have procedures, that also is your choice.

If you can also be a kind and generous person, along with keeping fit, then you have it made.

Whenever the issue of going gray or not going gray comes up, I've replied strongly to those who imply or outright state that going gray means that you are nobly and bravely aging gracefully. The implication is that those who choose to color their hair are somehow going against nature (BTW, I have an appointment later today to do just that. )

So in fairness, I also disagree with your "It is not aging gracefully to go gray" and your seeming inability to understand the mindset of those who choose to go gray.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow forgo the judgmental attitudes on both sides?

Don't know who decided going gray equates in any way to "grace". Grace is something within. How you move through the world. If someone equates putting color on one's body that one wasn't born with...what about makeup, nail polish is that also not "aging gracefully"? There is no "award" nor nobility about choosing to go au natural...in any personal way. It seems more like trying to convince one's self and justify to others. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I only care what I do.

Survived, you and I agreed on that other thread. I'm sure we agree here.

It's clear that I did not make myself clear in response to Lovely2.

SuzieQ3, sorry I am too dense to understand you. We can't all be that smart.

I'll ignore your snide and irrelevant retort. You obviously really did not understand the dialogue here or my conclusion about it. I guess you chose to ignore my Post #75. So be it. Perhaps I was right in my first impression of your post here after all and should have left it at that.

BTW, I just replied to you on the thread about Laura Mercier eyeshadows. I hope it is of some value to you.