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[tdog]

I watch some British shows on PBS and especially Downton Abbey, just to enjoy hearing the English language spoken so beautifully without cursing or stupid slang words. I hardly ever hear anyone speak proper English now and the cursing and vulgarity has become commonplace and is all over TV and the movies, too.

[Bunnies]

Sorry, POOK, I can't respect anyone who has to use profanity. It degrades them.  There is absolutely no reason to use the F-bomb or to take the Lord's name in vain.

[Texasmouse]

@Bunnies

Thank you.

[Maudelynn]

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@Anonymous wrote:
This post has been removed by QVC because of inappropriate language

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How about I say it like this:

Those who long for the "gentler" language of a long ago time are forgetting that back then it was common to use slurs to describe African-Americans, Asians, Native Americans and the mentally disabled.  You can hear this "gentle" language used if you watch old movies on TCM.  I'd much rather hear the f-bomb or JC than listen to the degrading way certain persons were addressed in the "good old days".

[chrystaltree]

Where in the world do you work that you hear profanity, especially that F word ????  Yes, profanity has become more acceptable in our society but  not on jobs or in the business world.  It's in  the streets, in music, in movies,  in social situations but it doesn't really bother me.  I don't use that type of language, I was raised in different era.  But I'm an adult, hearing the F word isn't going to give me an attack of the vapors and I am more interested what the person is saying that how they are saying it.  As for your grandaughters and their mother's language, you need to mind your own business and zip your lip about that.  Language and morality are not the same thing.  When I was little girl, we had a priest who swore rather often.  Yet he was truly one of the saints in this world.  He was everything a clergyman should be.  Maybe your daughgers will  speak the way their mom speaks, maybe they won't.  It doesn't matter, if their mother is good woman and raising them well in every other way.

[tends2dogs]

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@tansy wrote:

Using profanity has nothing to do with someone's morals.

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But it is a poor testimony if you do have good morals.  I can't say that a lot of people look up to someone that says the  F-bomb or JC......no matter how "moral" they are.  It kind of takes away from one's personna.

Picture this:  a woman or man standing out in public saying the F-Bomb or taking the Lord's name in vain.  Not a good image for anyone to see or hear. It is degrading them.

JMHO

[tends2dogs]

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

Using profanity has nothing to do with someone's morals.

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Exactly. Sometimes I cannot believe what I read on these forums. There is so much judgement and hate. 

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Are you saying that if someone doesn't like to hear or use profanity and they admit to feeling that way, they are being judgemental and hateful?

Read YOUR post again.  I would say it is judgemental and hateful.  Sorry to say, but people who don't like profanity are not going to become tolerant of it just because it seems to be the new "norm".  There are lot of things that are becoming the new "norm" these days and that doesn't mean we are going to become tolerant of it or like it.

[Moonchilde]

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@tends2dogs wrote:

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

Using profanity has nothing to do with someone's morals.

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Exactly. Sometimes I cannot believe what I read on these forums. There is so much judgement and hate. 

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Are you saying that if someone doesn't like to hear or use profanity and they admit to feeling that way, they are being judgemental and hateful?

Read YOUR post again.  I would say it is judgemental and hateful.  Sorry to say, but people who don't like profanity are not going to become tolerant of it just because it seems to be the new "norm".  There are lot of things that are becoming the new "norm" these days and that doesn't mean we are going to become tolerant of it or like it.

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No, she's not saying that if people don't like it and "admit to feeling that way" they are being judgmental and hateful. I personally feel the word "hateful" is OTT and irrelevant but you added it, so...

She's saying that the use of profanity does not necessarily reflect on someone's "morals" and that saying so is judgmental; she didn't say hateful :-)

On the subject of judgment (and morals) - I don't spend my life with moral compass in hand judging everyone I come into contact with measured against myself or any higher authority. AFAIC it's a waste of time even if I were so inclined (which I'm decidedly not - casting the first stone, and all that), and sets one up to be not only judgmental but prideful...and there are a few well-known comments about pride that I'm sure the moral judgers are also familiar with.

[lovemybichonfrise]

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@Laura14 wrote:

Wow.  And here I'm going back home to the Northeast just to have some real language tossed my way.  If one more person tells me to have a blessed day, I'll take them out.  That's how I know it's time to go home for a bit.  

I'm afraid some of you may burst into flames on the streets of NYC.  Totally agree with the it's just words group although I admire those of you who don't do it.  My personal anger just needs that extra special something from time to time.        

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Laura, ITA!  I was born and raised in NJ and have family members who live in NYS and Brooklyn and several friends who are in Brooklyn.   I'm a little suspicious of people who say they don't cuss and never have.  To your point about that "extra special something"--for me, there are times when the F-bomb is not sufficient enough.