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I make modest donations to organizations that help people who are temporarily down & out or suffering due to extreme weather events, etc.   And I also help with pet rescue as well.  I say this to let you  know my conscience is clear.

 

Beggers on the street, in the parking lot, hanging around doorways of stores get on my last nerve.   However, from time to time, I will hand someone a few dollars.  Quickly, I don't engage them.   I might listen for about 30 seconds, if I feel safe, then just grab a quick couple of dollars and hand it to them.   If they are lying to me or they plan to use the money for no good, it's on them.   I know where my heart is.

 

My friends & family have always warned me against doing this.    I almost lived my nightmare yesterday.   Broad daylight, bunch of people around a guy (why is it always a guy) was asking everyone at the shopping center for gas money (always gas money).  I listened to him for about a minute, the usual spiel and handed him $3.

 

I folded the money in half, stretched out my hand, the money was very visible and I was not in close contact with him otherwise.    He went for the cash and grabbed my hand.   I shot him a look that would peel paint and he let me go and turned away & went to his car.

 

Never again.  It disturbed me more than I expected.

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I understand you completely. Torn between wanting to help, but being cautious at the same time.

 

I'm afraid we live in a world where we simply cannot believe everyone that crosses our path, and even though we might be passing by helping someone that really needs/deserves it, we have to be safe first and foremost.

 

Lesson learned. My motto is that I cant fix the world. I can do what I can do, and in this day and age, most of the financial support kind of help needs to be through channels we can trust (i.e. give to charities that we know, and even though others might not agree, pass by those individuals we can't be sure about). 

 

It's a tough world, and I don't want to be uncaring, but I can't let myself be a victim first and foremost, or I will be of no help to anyone else. 

 

Sorry this happened to you, and glad he backed off, as I don't believe for a moment that was his original intent. Someone was watching over you. 

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Not to say that there aren't legitimate people on the street begging for money but back in San Diego years ago it was discovered that the beggars had unionized (I don't know what else to call it) and went out on the streets with directions as to where to go, etc.  They then pooled the money at whatever location they met and passed it out to everyone.  They had "uniform" signs made out of old cardboard boxes and used thick black magic markers.

 

I noticed (back in SD) the same people who begged on the street corner in one part of the city were at the complete other end of the city a week later.  Distinctive signage seemed to be passed around!  I noticed this because DH & I traveled all over the city at least once a week for estate sales and garage sales.

 

Funny thing now that we have moved across the country... I've noticed the same type of beggar with the same type of cardboard signs in my little town.  I'm now looking at faces to see if I recognize any of them.... not to turn anyone in at all... just to see if these people have unionized nationally....

 

Anyway.... I don't give to them.  I donate directly to the Church or a legitimate organization.  I used to work at the Church and we were advised not to give money when they came into the office.  We'd feed them but that's not what they wanted.

 

BTW, I don't care who it is, if someone were to grab my arm like that he would be sorry he did.... I can turn that around on him....I have a 2nd Degree Black Belt in Tang Soo Do Karate.....

 

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Gosh, that is creepy. I'm so glad you are OK. I too am back and forth wanting to help but afraid of something happening. They seem to be out on every corner these days. Sad for the poor folks who really are down and out.

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I've had several unsettling experiences over the past few years, in broad daylight.  I've gotten to the point that I rarely go and run errands by myself anymore.  I wait for my husband to go with me.  

 

I have arthritis and don't move as quickly as I'd like to when I'm having pain.  I feel very vulnerable if I'm by myself, especially if I have to carry bags or load the car.  

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@Q4u wrote:

Not to say that there aren't legitimate people on the street begging for money but back in San Diego years ago it was discovered that the beggars had unionized (I don't know what else to call it) and went out on the streets with directions as to where to go, etc.  They then pooled the money at whatever location they met once a month and passed it out to everyone.  They had "uniform" signs made out of old cardboard boxes and used thick black magic markers.

 

I noticed (back in SD) the same people who begged on the street corner in one part of the city were at the complete other end of the city a week later.  Distinctive signage seemed to be passed around!  I noticed this because DH & I traveled all over the city at least once a week for estate sales and garage sales.

 

Funny thing now that we have moved across the country... I've noticed the same type of beggar with the same type of cardboard signs in my little town.  I'm now looking at faces to see if I recognize any of them.... not to turn anyone in at all... just to see if these people have unionized nationally....

 

Anyway.... I don't give to them.  I donate directly to the Church or a legitimate organization.  I used to work at the Church and we were advised not to give money when they came into the office.  We'd feed them but that's not what they wanted.

 

BTW, I don't care who it is, if someone were to grab my arm like that he would be sorry he did.... I can turn that around on him....I have a 2nd Degree Black Belt in Tang Soo Do Karate.....

 


 

 

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@OnlyShopsOnline wrote:

I've had several unsettling experiences over the past few years, in broad daylight.  I've gotten to the point that I rarely go and run errands by myself anymore.  I wait for my husband to go with me.  

 

I have arthritis and don't move as quickly as I'd like to when I'm having pain.  I feel very vulnerable if I'm by myself, especially if I have to carry bags or load the car.  


 

 

To see me, you would think well those goes a little old gray haired grandma.

I feel like I'm an easy target for someone up to no good.  That's  part of the reason why I don't mind walking away quickly.  I live alone.    But if I had a husband, I would do what you do.   We'd go together.

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In a town we used to live in you could not leave your window open while sitting anywhere in a car or the people that were begging for money would stick their head inside your car and refuse to leave, talk about scary!

 

Lately I have seen people standing at busy intersections where there are stoplights, and when there is a long line of cars stopped they go up to the driver side and knock on the window while holding a sign asking for money.

 

I agree, we donate to legitimate charities  I have read too many horror stories about good intentions going wrong!

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@software, I'm sorry you had that experience. I have been scared, too. We have more and more people begging where I live. I don't understand, because we have 2 organizations that truly do help people who are down and out in this area. One serves food several times a day, hands out food baskets and helps with housing. The other provides very small cabins for folks who are homeless.

It really seems like around here, people are wanting cash. And they are getting it, or they wouldn't keep it up.

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@Q4u.  You sound like you are talking about my college town in central NY.   You can see the same faces day after day as if that is their spot.   Sorry but this town has free everything if you ask and/or know where to go.    Free clinics, free food, free housing to homeless, etc.    Before I retired I worked a full time office job and a part time job cashiering.   I can not tell you the times I was invited to go for free food.  When I said I don't need and I make to much money I was always told you are never asked for ID.  Just get in line.  Thurs at noon was free chickens at the rectory.  All churches have the give away times.  I could go on.   I heard customers openly discuss how to beat the welfare system because no one ever checks your story.  After 10+ years of listening I finally quit cashiering.  Those night changed how I feel about my towns people.  I and others are out there busting our behinds to care for our family and still pay high taxes so these people could play the system.  I also saw people with real need leave food behind because they could not afford it and pride would let them ask for help.

 

Assistance programs are supposed to be a hand up while you are having hard times not a free ride for life.   I have 4 organizations I donate to as I can.  I check their financial pie information yearly to make sure all or most of the money they collect goes to its stated purpose not high administrative charges.